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Nzoner's Game Room>This is why Damien Williams is our starting RB
Hog's Gone Fishin 10:58 AM 07-20-2019
We only got a small sample size last year of what this guy can do. Remember Jamaal Charles, we didn't know what we really had until he got the opportunity to carry the ball. Damien is going to be a top 5 back in 2019. Mark my words.

There is a play (not on this video) against the Chargers where he took a handoff and took it between I believe the LT and LG for 10 yards so fast I actually thought it was Hill taking the handoff. He put his pads down and nailed Derwin James. James took him down but Damien won the battle. So impressive! I wish clay could find that and Gif it up.

Just watch the way this guy runs. His quickness, his power, his vision, his hands, his pad level at the point of attack. He's a complete back.

Chiefs Kingdom is blessed !


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Chiefshrink 11:01 AM 07-20-2019
I've been pounding this drum since Hunt was released. The running game has not missed a beat IMHO.:-)
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In58men 11:09 AM 07-20-2019
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
I've been pounding this drum since Hunt was released. The running game has not missed a beat IMHO.:-)
Don’t sleep on Darwin Thompson and Carlos Hyde.

Hyde absolutely loves our offensive system. From what I’ve heard he’s never been this excited with any other team.
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Halfcan 11:10 AM 07-20-2019
I posted in another thread that I thought he was going to have a huge year. Our running game will be able to pound the ball if defenses are going to play a safety deep all the time so Reek won't burn them. Hopefully, the O line will be a lot better than last year and smash some good running holes for him. Should be some open ground to that second level since teams have to respect our passing game.
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Kiimo 11:16 AM 07-20-2019
I personally am down on him but only in fantasy because I think Darwin and Hyde are going to contribute a lot and the incredible wide receiver group are going to need to eat.

But yeah. This offense regressing is so unbelievably hilarious.

Watch Mahomes throw 5 tds against Jacksonville week 1 and then search "Mahomes" "regress" "wrong" in twitter that day.

It will be delicious to drink it in.
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BWillie 11:19 AM 07-20-2019
I'm not as high on him as others. But luckily for us we have the best offensive coach in the league so almost any running back will do. He can make them work. In his entire time at Miami he couldn't muster 4.0 yards per carry. in a four year sample size. That is FRIGHTENING. Let's be honest, it's easy to run in this offense. Defenses prepare to stop Mahomes. Running lanes are open.

We should almost NEVER run the ball. Period. I'm talking 90% of the time pass the ball. There is a great Athletic article about this. Even when they KNOW you are passing, it's STILL way way more effective than running the ball. STOP running the ball unless it's 4th and inches, or the defense is just giving you an easy 10 yard gain.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 11:30 AM 07-20-2019
I found the play that really impressed me so much.

Skip to 32:20


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BWillie 11:33 AM 07-20-2019
Last year the WORST team in the NFL had a 3.8 yards per carry average.

Prior to coming to the Chiefs last year, he had a 3.5 yard per carry average. In four years. Let that sink in a moment.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 11:34 AM 07-20-2019
Originally Posted by In58men:
Don’t sleep on Darwin Thompson and Carlos Hyde.

Hyde absolutely loves our offensive system. From what I’ve heard he’s never been this excited with any other team.
Hyde should be excited. He's going to make bunches of money sitting on the bench.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 11:36 AM 07-20-2019
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Last year the WORST team in the NFL had a 3.8 yards per carry average.

Prior to coming to the Chiefs last year, he had a 3.5 yard per carry average. In four years. Let that sink in a moment.
Dude, his avg last year was 5.1 and receiving 7.0 Jamaal charles avg 4.3 for the Broncos. Let that sink in for a minute.
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Mosbonian 11:36 AM 07-20-2019
Originally Posted by In58men:
Don’t sleep on Darwin Thompson and Carlos Hyde.

Hyde absolutely loves our offensive system. From what I’ve heard he’s never been this excited with any other team.
Funny thing is that all the Jags fans are laughing at us for picking up Carlos Hyde....would be funny if he ripped off a 200 yard day against them
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BWillie 11:39 AM 07-20-2019
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Dude, his avg last year was 5.1 and receiving 7.0 Let that sink in for a minute.
In an ANDY REID offense. Virtually all running backs succeed at YPC in an Andy Reid offense. Especially when you run in an offense who had the best QB of all time performance as year. Williams is as overrated as they come with this board. He's good enough, I guess. But I sure hope our 6th rounder ends up getting alot of time so we can see if he's better.

Andy Reid has made so many running backs look better than they are. Look at Brian Westbrook.

But really, running back doesn't matter much in an Andy Reid offense. So that is cool. We should throw everytime. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
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Halfcan 11:43 AM 07-20-2019
Originally Posted by BWillie:
I'm not as high on him as others. But luckily for us we have the best offensive coach in the league so almost any running back will do. He can make them work. In his entire time at Miami he couldn't muster 4.0 yards per carry. in a four year sample size. That is FRIGHTENING. Let's be honest, it's easy to run in this offense. Defenses prepare to stop Mahomes. Running lanes are open.

We should almost NEVER run the ball. Period. I'm talking 90% of the time pass the ball. There is a great Athletic article about this. Even when they KNOW you are passing, it's STILL way way more effective than running the ball. STOP running the ball unless it's 4th and inches, or the defense is just giving you an easy 10 yard gain.
Wiliams is actually at 4.0 YPC in his career and ran at 5.1 YPC last year for us. 8.3 career Receiving- so not so Frightening.

So if running lanes are open- why would you not pound the ball and control the clock? :-)

People were not impressed with Priest Holmes before he came here either. Williams is going to be a big weapon for us.
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BWillie 11:46 AM 07-20-2019
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Wiliams is actually at 4.0 YPC in his career and ran at 5.1 YPC last year for us. 8.3 career Receiving- so not so Frightening.

So if running lanes are open- why would you not pound the ball and control the clock? :-)

People were not impressed with Priest Holmes before he came here either. Williams is going to be a big weapon for us.
Well yeah, he has a 4.0 ypc NOW because he got the benefit of playing in a Patrick Mahomes + Tyreek Hill + Travis Kelce + Andy Reid offense. Any Top 60 running back in the league would have success in such an offense.

To your second point, you don't want to control the clock if you are a superior team. If you are a better team, you want as many possessions as possible. That would be a valid argument if you weren't better than the other team. That is why you see especially in college basketball and college football the inferior team slow the game down all the time. For some reason it works for Virginia (basketball) but that is one of the only anomalies. Slowing the game down and giving PATRICK MAHOMES & FUTURE HOF ANDY REID LESS possessions instead of more allows more luck into the game.
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suzzer99 11:47 AM 07-20-2019
His running style reminds me of Marcus Allen - so smooth.
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