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Taco John 03:00 AM 11-28-2021
The rollout of this NeW vArIaNt!!!! feels completely stiff and scripted. It feels like a completely poorly written screenplay. I practically expect them to try to rebrand it Covid-21 at any moment now.

This show needs new writers.





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MahomesMagic 12:08 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
As were many of the people who either ended up hospitalized or passed it on to someone else who ended up hospitalized. My job isn't a sales pitch here, I'm just reflecting what we do and don't know, according to the science.

If you want to say no to the mask, that's your choice under our current policy, but every study we have says it makes a difference.

If you want to say no to the vaccine, that's your choice under our current policy, but every study we have says it makes a difference.

Our standards should not be "anything less than the bubonic plague should be effectively ignored." It should be "am I doing everything reasonable to protect my community's health." Masks and vaccines are reasonable. You're shrugging off a disease that has basically killed off the population of Alaska in under two years.

What we don't know is exactly how effective vaccines will or won't be against it, and we don't know if it's more or less deadly. And we shouldn't think we know more than the scientists.
Oh God.

Every study says wear a mask?!

So why did this special virus stopping property of cloth only become a thing in 2020?

New science?!
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Donger 12:10 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Oh God.

Every study says wear a mask?!

So why did this special virus stopping property of cloth only become a thing in 2020?

New science?!
It didn't. See the Spanish Flu. And people freaked out over masks then, too.
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Donger 12:11 PM 11-29-2021
And speaking of masks:

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...d-spread-study
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Direckshun 12:12 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Oh God.

Every study says wear a mask?!

So why did this special virus stopping property of cloth only become a thing in 2020?

New science?!
The studies do not say wear a mask, no. They do not make policy recommendations, they reach scientific conclusions from which our elected leaders can make policy recommendations.

Every study says wearing a mask blocks most of the airborne microdroplets that Covid-19 hitches a ride on.
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petegz28 12:14 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Again, the bolded part (which is correct) shows that Fauci wasn't lying above.

Manipulation doesn't always entail lying, as shown above. Did and does he want to get as many people vaccinated as possible? Yes, absolutely.
It's okay...Fauci has told is this weekend that he is only being attacked to distract from Jan 6th.........
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MahomesMagic 12:14 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
It didn't. See the Spanish Flu. And people freaked out over masks then, too.
Did you learn this history lesson from the Atlantic?

:-)

Masks don't stop viruses. They do help spread bacteria which killed a lot of people ...probably more than the "spanish" flu.


Note the author...
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...uenza-pandemic

The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, report researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs.
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Direckshun 12:16 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Masks don't stop viruses.
Masks do largely stop the airborne microdroplets that the virus rides on, which is why they've been recommended and (at times) required from the start of the pandemic.
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Hammock Parties 12:17 PM 11-29-2021
They are really pushing the booster with this omicron garbage.
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petegz28 12:18 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
They are really pushing the booster with this omicron garbage.
Yep..just get vacinated and boosted so we can tell you just because you got vaccinated and boosted that you still need to live as if you hadn't because.....
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MahomesMagic 12:18 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
Masks do largely stop the airborne microdroplets that the virus rides on, which is why they've been recommended and (at times) required from the start of the pandemic.
So? Randomized control trials for masks have been conducted for decades.

The results showed they do little to nothing.

You just bought the propaganda and never looked yourself.
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El Lobo Gordo 12:18 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Again, the bolded part (which is correct) shows that Fauci wasn't lying above.

Manipulation doesn't always entail lying, as shown above. Did and does he want to get as many people vaccinated as possible? Yes, absolutely.
When Fauci purposely gives an estimate that is not part of the set of real estimates as he has admitted to doing....he is lying. It doesn't matter that he doesn't know the exact percent. He threw out a number he believed was too low...not part of the real set of estimates....in order to manipulate people.

You're just trying to rationalize your initial judgement that Fauci hasn't lied even though there is strong evidence to suggest that Fauci did indeed lie. You don't know how to apply Bayes Theorem in a practical sense.
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Direckshun 12:19 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
They are really pushing the booster with this omicron garbage.
Early returns are that vaccinated folks with boosters have an antibody count 53 times higher than someone who's merely been infected.

They're pushing it because it helps protect you and those you could spread it to.
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Direckshun 12:20 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
So? Randomized control trials for masks have been conducted for decades.

The results showed they do little to nothing.
That's not true, at the very least, regarding Covid.

Honest question: what is your understanding of how the disease spreads?
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MahomesMagic 12:20 PM 11-29-2021
Any mask believers want to explain this?

Real world.

2.5 months ago, New York’s governor announced a “series of universal mask measures” to “help slow the spread”

So uh…why are cases higher than before the “mask measures” came into effect & rising rapidly?

The endless commitment to unequivocal failure is absolutely remarkable pic.twitter.com/wbyhAZsP8a

— IM (@ianmSC) November 28, 2021

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petegz28 12:20 PM 11-29-2021
Biden literall just stood on TV and told everyone to wear masks indoors when not just a day or two ago he was seen doing the exact opposite.

fuck him
fuck Fauci

None of them have a fucking clue...

FFS, New York stopped all non-essential surgeries..."just in case"
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