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Originally Posted by O.city:
With all they've done or not done this offseason, they've really put alot of pressure on themselves with regards to this draft.

Good thing they basically have 2 drafts to work with.
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I updated the OP with this, but here's my final 3-for-1 mock before the draft. I'm played out and unless something major happens, ready to see what happens!

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.
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I'm going with the first one even though I'm not a huge fan of Mafe. I'd also look at swapping out Jones in the 4th for a tackle.
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29.

Treylon Burks
WR,
30.

David Ojabo
EDGE,
50.

Tariq Woolen
CB,
62.

Travis Jones
IDL,
94.

Sam Williams
EDGE,
103.

Phidarian Mathis
IDL,
121.

Zyon McCollum
CB,
135.

Zamir White
RB,
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Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I'm going with the first one even though I'm not a huge fan of Mafe. I'd also look at swapping out Jones in the 4th for a tackle.

Yeah, if Karlaftis actually falls that far, it works out so well for KC. No need to move up if he falls...

Originally Posted by TambaBerry:
29.

Treylon Burks
WR,
30.

David Ojabo
EDGE,
50.

Tariq Woolen
CB,
62.

Travis Jones
IDL,
94.

Sam Williams
EDGE,
103.

Phidarian Mathis
IDL,
121.

Zyon McCollum
CB,
135.

Zamir White
RB,

I like most of this. I am stone cold OUT on Ojabo before 50. I also think the hype on Woolen is crazy. There are safer players with just as much upside likely to be there.
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

Awesome breakdown. I've probably done 100 mocks over the last two weeks but takes some time to post these scenarios with accompanied explanations.

I like scenario 1 the best. That D line is stacked and both edges are high motor guys and young. The sooner I see Frank Clark out of uniform the better and this makes that reality closer. Not familiar enough with the LB from Montana but I've read good things. Prisco (ugh...I know) has Asamoah as his biggest draft undervalued draft crush and compares him to Lavonte David. One of those two would round out our LB corp pretty well I think.

Between the trade scenario mocks, I like the first much better than the second. Pretty much solely bc I'm not in on the Christian Watson train. They both have Sam Williams who I'm sold on, but 30 picks apart which shows how much variation there is outside the top 25 or so. You can get a guy at 90 in one mock where you had to get him in the 50's in another. As for long term potential, I think Jameson Williams has the better chance to be a game changer than Jermaine Johnson, another reason I like mock 2 more than mock 3.

Cool exercise...thanks for posting.
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Originally Posted by blake5676:
Awesome breakdown. I've probably done 100 mocks over the last two weeks but takes some time to post these scenarios with accompanied explanations.

I like scenario 1 the best. That D line is stacked and both edges are high motor guys and young. The sooner I see Frank Clark out of uniform the better and this makes that reality closer. Not familiar enough with the LB from Montana but I've read good things. Prisco (ugh...I know) has Asamoah as his biggest draft undervalued draft crush and compares him to Lavonte David. One of those two would round out our LB corp pretty well I think.

Between the trade scenario mocks, I like the first much better than the second. Pretty much solely bc I'm not in on the Christian Watson train. They both have Sam Williams who I'm sold on, but 30 picks apart which shows how much variation there is outside the top 25 or so. You can get a guy at 90 in one mock where you had to get him in the 50's in another. As for long term potential, I think Jameson Williams has the better chance to be a game changer than Jermaine Johnson, another reason I like mock 2 more than mock 3.

Cool exercise...thanks for posting.

1 is definitely ideal. If you are confident Karlaftis or Johnson will be an option, or if you think another player = Karlaftis (paschal, enagbare, cam thomas all potentially could be viewed at the same tier depending on how you evaluate), then 1 works.

They DO have a lot of flexibility at DE because of the numbers.

The more I think about it, the more I think Johnson isn't worth a move to 13.
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How bout that defense?

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
How bout that defense?

That is ... something. So many trades. 18 picks!

Am I reading it correctly that you traded #30 AND the Chiefs' next two 1st and 2nd round picks to get there?

That's an AWFUL lot of draft capital to shift to one draft. You'd have to absolutely lock-stock-two-smoking-barrels CERTAIN that Travon Walker is worth it.
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7 DEs is a little much.
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
That is ... something. So many trades. 18 picks!

Am I reading it correctly that you traded #30 AND the Chiefs' next two 1st and 2nd round picks to get there?

That's an AWFUL lot of draft capital to shift to one draft. You'd have to absolutely lock-stock-two-smoking-barrels CERTAIN that Travon Walker is worth it.

Well, in fairness to ATL, I got their whole draft this year, plus a third in each of the next two years.

Travon Walker has some serious upside in my view and immediately pushes Clark for playing time.
Ebiketie is depth this year, more raw but great upside. Having two players ready to eat Clark's snaps ready to go for next year makes clark expendable.

Jones is an immediate three down starter next to Chris Jones. But we add depth later for more situational flexibility and to keep the line fresh.

Enagbare is low ceiling, but super productive. Let's stick him at SDE. I would rather have had Logan Hall here, but he was off the board.

Jalen Tolbert is the BPA at 62 in this draft.

Winfrey is here to develop behind Chris Jones and sub in to keep Jones fresh.

Faalele is a high upside project for tackle and if he cracks the lineup, might give the chiefs the biggest oline in the NFL. That's a lot of beef.

Parnham was bpa. Versatile inside lineman who can backup or guards and center.

Mathis will compete for snaps and rotate with Travis Jones.

Bryan Cook takes the Sorenson role in the defense day one.

Malone will compete for Ingrams role, or potentially falcon packages, as a stand up pass rush specialist. Barno, drafted later, is also to develop and compete for the role.

McCollum is a high upside project in the Ward mold.

Williams was too good to pass up at 108.

Domann takes over Niemann's role, and is too good to pass up at 114.

Jurgens is more oline depth. He won't likely get passed the third round in the draft by my estimate. Not a perfect fit for the Chiefs scheme, but worthy at 121.

Barno and Robinson are special projects.

Mathis is a contender to start outside.

Edit: of course I realize it's all very unrealistic. But it was a fun thought exercise and I get to explain where I see a bunch of guys that I like, and how they might fit together in the Chiefs D.
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Originally Posted by The Franchise:
7 DEs is a little much.

Two are stand up linebackers for the Ingram role.
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CBS sports just came out with a new mock.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ence-pays-off/

Chiefs get Boye Mafe and George Pickens
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The KCLab podcast (with Craig Stout and those guys) had us taking Lewis Cine at 29 and Skyy Moore at 30.

And with that I was done listening.

That's a fascinating combination of 2 pre-draft camps. The "WE HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE WRS AND DBS!!" camp and the "OH MY GOD THERE ARE 65 GUYS TAHT ARE GOING TO BE SELECTED BY PICK 29!!!!!" camp.

Which is to say, that would be a monumental shit-fest of a draft.

And no, there's no chance it happens. I'd say there's less than a 1% chance of EITHER of those picks happening. There is a literal zero percent chance of both.
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They’re gonna take guys who’ll piss you guys off

I’m here for it
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