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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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O.city 01:25 PM 08-10-2020
https://twitter.com/youyanggu/status...173534722?s=21

Here’s a good thread about data and things we talked about in here this morning
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TLO 01:26 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I haven’t found any thing on it yet but does this number include antibody tests as well?
Antibody tests are separated out into a seperate category

Serology Tested Individuals

62,414

Individuals with Positive Serology Results

2,345

% Positive of All Patients Tested by Serology

3.8%
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BigCatDaddy 01:32 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Fun fact that occurred to me when reading the news today:

The percentage of Lebanon's population that was killed in the explosion last week is...

0.00003% (220/6.849 million)

Based on Marcellus's logic, I'm not sure what the fuss is about.
Did they close the country because of it?
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DaFace 01:33 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
https://twitter.com/youyanggu/status...173534722?s=21

Here’s a good thread about data and things we talked about in here this morning
I wish there was some way of having a place that had a Wave 1 and just saying "remove all restrictions and see what happens" without the risk of...you know...killing people.
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O.city 01:46 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I wish there was some way of having a place that had a Wave 1 and just saying "remove all restrictions and see what happens" without the risk of...you know...killing people.
Yeah that would be ideal

But just putting all the pieces together, there’s gotta be some kind of immunity there. Nothing else makes sense to me
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Pasta Little Brioni 01:46 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
They are all run by selfish people.
What about retailers with thousands of people going through their doors every day during the height of it? Hey if it fits an agenda...
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dirk digler 01:47 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
The truth to the matter is by the time this is contained there will be ~200K people roughly 78 years old who will not be around any longer unfortunately. These are mainly people who wouldn't have been around in 3-5 years anyway given the average age of death in the US. Its inarguable there will be a DROP in deaths in the US in the next 3-5 years.

And since Donger brought up the Spanish Flu that killed .65% of the US.



If people do not understand the significant difference then I don't know what else to say.

Its not being cruel or insensitive its just the facts. Death sucks, most of these people were at the end of their life cycle.

We need to worry about the future.
So just so I understand your position what should we be doing about covid?

In regards to the Spanish Flu, the cytokine storm is happening in children with Covid we just have better medical treatments now to identify and stop it. That is what the multi system inflammatory syndrome is caused by.
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DaFace 01:50 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah that would be ideal

But just putting all the pieces together, there’s gotta be some kind of immunity there. Nothing else makes sense to me
Yeah, it has to be. As I've said for a while, the question is just how much. And I don't really know of a way to figure that out without opening up the floodgates somewhere and seeing what happens.
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Discuss Thrower 01:51 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
What about retailers with thousands of people going through their doors every day during the height of it? Hey if it fits an agenda...
People really needed new home theater systems or the supplies to build custom camper vans.
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O.city 01:52 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Yeah, it has to be. As I've said for a while, the question is just how much. And I don't really know of a way to figure that out without opening up the floodgates somewhere and seeing what happens.
I just don’t think people would do it even if you tried. Normal behavior will be slowed people are cautious etc
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DaFace 01:54 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Did they close the country because of it?
If they expected there was a chance of happening again, I'm sure they would have. 9/11 is a better parallel on that one if you really want to try and make a comparison - they shut down airspace until they were confident that the threat had passed. Thankfully, it only took a couple days.
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DaFace 01:55 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I just don’t think people would do it even if you tried. Normal behavior will be slowed people are cautious etc
I don't really know - are there countries out there who have said "fuck it" and gone all Leeroy Jenkins on it?
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DaFace 02:14 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I don't really know - are there countries out there who have said "fuck it" and gone all Leeroy Jenkins on it?
I don't know how reliable this is, but scrolling back and forth on this, it looks like Belarus never did anything major.

https://ourworldindata.org/policy-responses-covid

Hard to make much of it since they appear to have been spared any kind of major "wave 1" at all. They do appear to have voluntarily cut down on going into workplaces, but that's about it:

https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobi..._Report_en.pdf

I'll definitely admit that the link between restrictiveness and spread is a bit dubious when you just look for examples like that.
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Perineum Ripper 02:17 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
One is an historical comparison. The other is not.

One is an accident. The other is not.
So that means the deaths are weighted differently?
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Donger 02:19 PM 08-10-2020
Originally Posted by mac459:
So that means the deaths are weighted differently?
No, not to me. It's just a comparison between total deaths (so far) between two historical events.
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