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Nzoner's Game Room>Gasoline over $4 coming to a pump near you because this thread is ass
Donger 08:40 AM 04-23-2007
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=afOlUzd30YOo

Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

Spoiler!

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lewdog 08:21 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by notorious:
Cheap gas is saving me around 500-800/month.

I am just a small business running 2 suburbans, 2 trailers, and a van.

Imagine what this is doing for big business and trucking/shipping........
Please brah....$20 in your pocket.

Think of the oil field workers!!!
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aturnis 08:22 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan:
If you look at short term only.
No. Every citizen having an extra $500/year should add WAY more jobs to the economy than any loss felt by the oil industry.
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jjchieffan 08:22 PM 09-01-2015
Why do the layoffs have to have a long term effect? Are the people in the oil industry not capable of finding work in another field? I used to be a cable TV contractor making really good money. But it got to the point that there were more contractors looking to work than the cable companies needed. The cable companies were able to use that to cut the amount we were making in half. I got out of cable contracting and got into computer network cabling. My point is that when I couldn't make a living in my line of work, I found another line of work. Oil workers can do the same.
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lewdog 08:23 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan:
Lol. You have no clue how much I make or my education. The fact is, gainfully employed people spend more than unemployed people. That's not even debateable and yet many continue with that falsehood.
I'm talking about the oil field workers where most of the cuts are being made as far as percentages of job loss. I know plenty of friends who have been doing that and I am very sorry their high school education didn't give them job security while I raked up student debt.
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BigChiefFan 08:28 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Please brah....$20 in your pocket.

Think of the oil field workers!!!
Yep, that's precisely what I said. Jesus Christ. If you can't concede that the oil sector is a major employer in our country and when it tanks it effects a lot of people then I'll just agree to disagree.
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Hydrae 08:30 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by notorious:
Cheap gas is saving me around 500-800/month.

I am just a small business running 2 suburbans, 2 trailers, and a van.

Imagine what this is doing for big business and trucking/shipping........
That was the next point, higher gas prices raise the cost of everything due to shipping costs. So the savings are not just at the pump but across the board.
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lewdog 08:30 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan:
Yep, that's precisely what I said. Jesus Christ. If you can't concede that the oil sector is a major employer in our country and when it tanks it effects a lot of people then I'll just agree to disagree.
Sure it does. It is also causing every consumer in America to save money. Other businesses profit because of this. Other jobs are created. These people in the oil industry sure can get other jobs right? RIGHT?!
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aturnis 08:31 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by notorious:
Cheap gas is saving me around 500-800/month.

I am just a small business running 2 suburbans, 2 trailers, and a van.

Imagine what this is doing for big business and trucking/shipping........
Every small business construction contractor with a fleet of 50 vehicles is saving big time.

Citizens and businesses have a little extra cash in their pockets to get projects they've been putting off done.

Lower fuel prices allows the contractors to price that work cheaper, ensuring more of those new bid requests turn into work.

This has a huge positive effect.

Of course, the huge corporations will just continue business as usual. Refusing to pass savings on to customers, making the economic drive solely demand driven, and they'll selfishly pocket every penny of savings for their investors.
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notorious 08:32 PM 09-01-2015
I don't understand why shipping prices haven't went down. (Actually, I understand fully)


They are some gouging pieces of shit. Especially Beaver Express.
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notorious 08:36 PM 09-01-2015
:-) @ lewdog.


Yes, Beaver Express is a real company, and although their name is awesome, their rates most certainly are not.



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lewdog 08:37 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by notorious:
:-) @ lewdog.


Yes, Beaver Express is a real company, and although their name is awesome, their rates most certainly are not.


:-)

I seriously thought you just had a well played line in a retarded thread. And I figured you were married.

:-)
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aturnis 08:40 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by Hydrae:
That was the next point, higher gas prices raise the cost of everything due to shipping costs. So the savings are not just at the pump but across the board.
Well... If you think they'll pass the savings on to the consumer that is.
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aturnis 08:43 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by notorious:
I don't understand why shipping prices haven't went down. (Actually, I understand fully)


They are some gouging pieces of shit. Especially Beaver Express.
This...

Same reason they won't put the two burritos they took out of the package in the freezer isle.

They are under no obligation to...
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BigChiefFan 08:44 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by aturnis:
Every small business construction contractor with a fleet of 50 vehicles is saving big time.

Citizens and businesses have a little extra cash in their pockets to get projects they've been putting off done.

Lower fuel prices allows the contractors to price that work cheaper, ensuring more of those new bid requests turn into work.

This has a huge positive effect.

Of course, the huge corporations will just continue business as usual. Refusing to pass savings on to customers, making the economic drive solely demand driven, and they'll selfishly pocket every penny of savings for their investors.
I agree with this, I'm just pointing out there's another side of the coin. People employed spend more than unemployed and there's no denying the oil prices have definitely correlated to big unemployment and that's not something to brush off and be taken lightly. Nothing more, nothing less. Trying to keep the discussion real. You don't find that many people unemployed in a high paying sector troubling for America long term!?
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aturnis 08:47 PM 09-01-2015
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan:
I agree with this, I'm just pointing out there's another side of the coin. People employed spend more than unemployed and there's no denying the oil prices have definitely correlated to big unemployment and that's not something to brush off and be taken lightly. Nothing more, nothing less. Trying to keep the discussion real. You don't find that many people unemployed in a high paying sector troubling for America long term!?
Right. And the oil industry is miniscule compared to the economy as a whole. They might hurt, but far more will benefit. WAY more $50,000 jobs will be created as a result.

This is the point everyone has been trying to drive home.
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