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Rausch 07:15 AM 03-24-2019
This isn't a debate thread.

This is just for those wanting to talk about Q.
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True North 12:37 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by lostcause:
You know that some people actually believe what Ron Watkins (qanon) has posted over the last few years, right?
Why do you care so much about what others believe? Is it because it's not in lockstep with your leftist orthodoxy?

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lostcause 12:50 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by True North:
Why do you care so much about what others believe? Is it because it's not in lockstep with your leftist orthodoxy?

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You can believe what you want. However, I think the people behind the Qanon phenomenon are exploiting uneducated people for financial and material power gains, and I care about that enough to want to expose it where I can.
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True North 01:13 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by lostcause:
You can believe what you want. However, I think the people behind the Qanon phenomenon are exploiting uneducated people for financial and material power gains, and I care about that enough to want to expose it where I can.
If that's really your actual concern, I'd think that you would be much more outspoken about what's going on with this "pandemic", than some 4chan LARP psyop.

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lostcause 01:17 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by True North:
If that's really your actual concern, I'd think that you would be much more outspoken about what's going on with this "pandemic", than some shhhh LARP psyop.

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You choose your involvement. I'll choose mine.
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True North 01:24 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by lostcause:
You choose your involvement. I'll choose mine.
Dude, you're so transparent it's not even funny. Enjoy your little victory lap. Hopefully the last four years of suffering were worth it.

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lostcause 01:27 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by True North:
Dude, you're so transparent it's not even funny. Enjoy your little victory lap. Hopefully the last four years of suffering were worth it.

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Enjoying the victory lap. And all the other laps as Biden keeps winning swing states again and again. Thank you for your well wishes.

wwg1wga
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Bump 01:34 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by lostcause:
You can believe what you want. However, I think the people behind the Qanon phenomenon are exploiting uneducated people for financial and material power gains, and I care about that enough to want to expose it where I can.
:-)

what financial and material gains?

You clowns have no idea about it, just what the dem's propagandists have said and it shows.

I do commend you for one thing though, you nailed your username.
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lostcause 01:49 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by Bump:
:-)

what financial and material gains?

You clowns have no idea about it, just what the dem's propagandists have said and it shows.

I do commend you for one thing though, you nailed your username.
Ron & John Watkins, everyone who has sold Q paraphernalia, Donald Trump and Marjorie Greene come to mind.

And zing. You got me.
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Bump 01:59 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by lostcause:
Ron & John Watkins, everyone who has sold Q paraphernalia, Donald Trump and Marjorie Greene come to mind.

And zing. You got me.
oh my!
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True North 07:16 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by lostcause:
Ron & John Watkins, everyone who has sold Q paraphernalia, Donald Trump and Marjorie Greene come to mind.



And zing. You got me.
Did you have the same concerns for all the people pushing the so called resistance movement the last 4 years? Probably didn't stop you from purchasing a pink pussy hat and marching around chanting "not my president".

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AdolfOliverBush 08:28 AM 12-09-2020
Originally Posted by BanHam:
Chuck Schumer
@SenSchumer
· 1h

QAnon is a threat to our democratic institutions.

Their disinformation has amplified hatred and violence.

We’re demanding that the FBI be up front about the threat to our democracy and national security posed by QAnon movements foreign and domestic.

https://thedailybeast.com/chuck-schu...eat-assessment
Qanon is a threat to the average human IQ, and the availability of Hot Pockets.
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Detoxing 01:35 PM 12-10-2020
“Have we all been conned?” asked one QAnon supporter on 8kun—an internet forum previously known as 8chan that has harbored QAnon content on the internet. Donald Trump’s decisive loss in the US presidential election and failed attempts at attributing the loss to voter fraud has jolted the QAnon conspiracy, leaving some supporters skeptical of its claims. Will this clear the contradiction in their beliefs? Will Biden’s victory diminish QAnon’s allure? Or do conspiracy theories always find a way to prevail even in the face of apparent contradictions? It is worth probing these questions to understand if and in what ways QAnon—a conspiracy theory that has been deemed as a domestic terror threat— will adapt to a reality incompatible with their core belief that Trump would win in a landslide and vindicate himself against the “deep state”.

“It’s hard to keep the faith when your wife and daughters have left you and we didn’t get the decisive MOAB [mother of all bombs] win we deserved on election night,” noted one QAnon supporter as he expressed his disbelief at what transpired on election day. Moreover, what seemed like an even bigger blow to the QAnon movement was the sudden resignation of Ron Watkins, the administrator of Q’s online sanctuary on 8kun. Strangely, ever since his resignation, Q has not made any posts, compounding fears about the future of the movement and possibilities that Q was merely a persona created by the Watkins family —a claim that has been strongly refuted. Nonetheless, it is clear that Biden’s victory has jolted the QAnon base and made one of its strongest prophecies fail.

This is not the first time that conspiracy theories have dealt with failed prophecies. If history is anything to go by, failed prophecies do not guarantee the end of the conspiracy. In fact, a meta-analysis of major conspiracy theories revealed that only one of the thirteen conspiracy theories examined collapsed after the failure of a prophecy. Thus, despite QAnon supporters expressing skepticism at the value of the movement and its leader, it may be too quick to disregard QAnon’s future.

Psychologists have been fascinated with why people continue believing conspiracies even after their deepest convictions fail. Most famously, psychologist Leon Festinger studied a cult group that wrongfully predicted the end of the world. Common sense would have us believe that the cognitive dissonance would be so large after a failed prophecy that people would lose faith in the movement but Festinger found the opposite to be true. When confronted with contradictory evidence, the group dealt with dissonance by claiming that their piety was recognised and that prevented the world from ending. While Festinger’s work has been criticised, it provides a useful conceptual foundation to understand the extent to which humans display a need for cognitive consistency—a tendency to maintain uniformity in beliefs even when proven blatantly wrong.

Psychologists have improved upon Festinger’s model and also studied the role of specific defence mechanisms in upholding conspiracies after failed prophecies. Of particular relevance to the QAnon discussion is the mechanism of “rationalisation”—the tendency to deal with emotional turmoil by conjuring seemingly logical and self-serving explanations. This strategy of rationalisation has been proven to be the most adaptive strategy when prophecies fail and the explanation for Trump’s defeat provided by popular QAnon influencer Joe M is a clear example of this defence mechanism at play. Joe M explained Biden’s victory as a “necessary scare event”, arguing that Trump had to allow fraudulent votes to be cast in order to expose the corruption and demonise the Democrats.

Another implausible rationalisation for QAnon’s failed prophecy was offered by QAnon influencer “Rose Unchartered”. She claimed that the Biden administration used a powerful supercomputer known as “The Hammer” to “hack into the election” and steal votes. These rationalisations fit QAnon’s overarching narrative of corrupt democrats stealing the election from its rightful winner, Mr. Donald Trump and hence, may be easily believed by their support base.

Such explanations may seem bizarre to most people but for those captivated by conspiracies, it helps them deal with the cognitive dissonance. For people whose life has been consumed by one powerful expectation—in this case that Trump would defeat the corrupt Democrats—abandonment of their faith because of one aberration is too traumatic to fathom. Remember, most QAnon supporters have destroyed their personal relationships in order to uphold their allegiance to the movement. Thus, to prevent confronting the futility of their sacrifice, they seek explanations for QAnon’s legitimacy—no matter its truth value—just to reaffirm to themselves that they did not make a mistake by sacrificing so much for QAnon, especially since QAnon’s beliefs are paranoia-based, in the face of contrary evidence, such believers will ensure that the evidence and the messenger’s legitimacy is undermined.

Joan Donavan, research director of the Shorenstein Centre of Media, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University also noted how QAnon is “able to incorporate breaking news events into its own storyline, so no matter what happens to Trump, the theory will adapt, and the network will shift”. This seems to already be taking place, with a section of QAnon supporters co-opting the “Save the children” movement to push their preposterous child-sex trafficking ring theory by posing as genuine anti-trafficking advocates. Adopting the “Save the children” mantra revitalised the movement and “introduced an entire new population to QAnon”. Thus, by piggybacking and misrepresenting legitimate social movements, QAnon has demonstrated enormous fluidity and willingness to reform its ideologies in order to thrive.

How QAnon fares in a Biden presidency, only time will tell. Will the initial discomfort of a failed conspiracy that led some QAnon supporters to call it a con job prevail? Or will QAnon’s interwoven set of conspiracies and strong in-group identity fostered on sites like 8kun that hail believers as “enlightened” individuals prevent the movement’s downfall?

The initial years of a Biden presidency will reveal answers to these complex questions. However, if past research is anything to go by, it seems likely that QAnon will survive this crisis of legitimacy. This is because one failed prophecy does not signify the failure of an entire movement. In QAnon’s case, their prophecies are anchored on a broader mission of pitting “good against evil” and “light against darkness”. This prevents specific failed prophecies from mattering a whole lot.

Also, we should not forget that Trump still won more votes than he did in 2016 and his support base will not magically evaporate because Biden becomes President. Trumpism is alive and QAnon aids its survival. Moreover, with murmurs of Trump running in 2024, the QAnon movement could peg its future prophecy on that election as being the decisive one where the rightful leader regains his rightful place and if that prophecy fails, another prophecy will take its place. All in all, it seems that Trump’s departure from the White House may not be enough to ensure QAnon’s departure from American society.

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I really could've just bolded all of it, as it all applies here. But this article nails it. Maybe Qfags will learn something about themselves (BWAHAHAHAHA Yeah fucking right)
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Detoxing 01:45 PM 12-10-2020
Originally Posted by :
But since Mr. Trump’s defeat, Q has gone dark. No posts from the account bearing Q’s tripcode, or digital user name, have appeared on 8kun, the website where all of Q’s posts appear. And overall QAnon-related activity on the site has slowed to a trickle. (On a recent day, there were fewer new posts on one of 8kun’s QAnon boards than on its board for adult-diaper fetishists.)


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AdolfOliverBush 01:48 PM 12-10-2020
Originally Posted by Detoxing:

It's only a matter of time before the Q torch is passed to another idiot.

"Q2: Electric Boogaloo"
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Prison Bitch 01:52 PM 12-10-2020
Q was a CIA (or Mossad, same thing) gay-op to drive the right away from issues of immigration and identity -couched as “Natuonalism” - which were gaining major steam, and re-direct it into a dead end.


Immigration got him elected in 2016 and it was the #1 issue for Pube voters in 2018:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...-to-exit-polls


That’s not going to fly with our depraved govt so they killed it off.
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