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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2022 STL Cardinals Thread***
BigRedChief 07:50 AM 03-19-2022
2022 Opening Day Lineup
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2022 Opening Day roster
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For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year, here are some of the historical threads going back to 2006.

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BigRedChief 07:51 AM 03-19-2022
I'm remembering we start the new season's thread when spring training games start. I watched part of yesterdays game.

Liberatore looked fantastic. More mature. Using that improved change to keep RH off the fastball on the outside corner. One outing but damn, he looked ready for the majors.
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raybec 4 08:07 AM 03-19-2022
Flaherty and Reyes already hurt, it's going to be a long season for those two. Neither of them will even hit 150 innings
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DJ's left nut 08:15 AM 03-19-2022
The cardinals should be on the horn with Oakland offering Nootbaar, Wynn and DeJong for Frankie Montas.

But they won’t be because Mozeliak is an idiot.
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jd1020 08:21 AM 03-19-2022
Why would the A's give up the best available pitcher on the market with 2 years remaining for DeJong, a 45 FV prospect, and a 35+ FV prospect?
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DJ's left nut 08:26 AM 03-19-2022
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Why would the A's give up the best available pitcher on the market with 2 years remaining for DeJong, a 45 FV prospect, and a 35+ FV prospect?
We’ll see the return.

Alternatively you could say a 3-4 WAR shortstop with below market years on his deal, a turnkey lefthanded polished hitter and strong side of a platoon plus a fringe top 100 prospect.
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jd1020 08:29 AM 03-19-2022
You really expect a team to buy DeJong at a 3-4 WAR rate after spending 2 seasons looking like a bench player?

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BigRedChief 08:38 AM 03-19-2022
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
Flaherty and Reyes already hurt, it's going to be a long season for those two. Neither of them will even hit 150 innings
The next time that Flaherty is healthy long term and his value is back up to an All-Star/#1 starter level, we need to trade him. There is absolutely no chance we resign him. He's going to want LA Dodgers money and return home. No way Dewitt opens up the checkbook for those numbers.

He leaves for FA, all we get is a bottom of the 1st round draft pick, correct?
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raybec 4 08:39 AM 03-19-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The cardinals should be on the horn with Oakland offering Nootbaar, Wynn and DeJong for Frankie Montas.

But they won’t be because Mozeliak is an idiot.
If Mo actually gets Montas or Manaea that would be fantastic. Nothing in the history of Mo makes me think that will happen.
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raybec 4 08:40 AM 03-19-2022
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
The next time that Flaherty is healthy long term and his value is back up to an All-Star/#1 starter level, we need to trade him. There is absolutely no chance we resign him. He's going to want LA Dodgers money and return home.
The next time Flaherty is healthy long term will be the first time Flaherty is healthy long term.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 08:50 AM 03-19-2022
They'll be lucky if they hit 50 innings combined.
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raybec 4 09:16 AM 03-19-2022
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
They'll be lucky if they hit 50 innings combined.
Schildt got fired for saying it too loud.
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bdj23 09:17 AM 03-19-2022
OP please change this to the Official Cardinals/Cubs thread so jd1020 feels at home when he inevitably shits it up.
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jd1020 09:26 AM 03-19-2022
Originally Posted by BDj23:
OP please change this to the Official Cardinals/Cubs thread so jd1020 feels at home when he inevitably shits it up.

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Should the Royals thread also be changed to Royals/Cardinals thread for when you post in that one, you whiney bitch.

I don't even plan on watching many Cubs games this year because they dont deserve my attention when they wont even bother to sign a player like Carlos Correa when they have a Pirates level future payroll commitment. You are the only person talking about them.
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bdj23 09:29 AM 03-19-2022
I only post in the Royals thread when they play the Cardinals you chode.
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