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ROYC75 01:21 PM 03-01-2023
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...9536dcd3&ei=21


Story by Andrew Gould




The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Do we want a high priced prima donna?
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Rainbarrel 12:09 PM 05-28-2023
Burrow to Chase won SB LVI
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Dunerdr 08:00 PM 05-28-2023
Originally Posted by Rainbarrel:
Burrow to Chase won SB LVI
Mahomes to hill won one!
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PHOG 07:35 AM 05-29-2023
Meh, might as well. What could it hurt? :-)
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Rausch 07:53 AM 05-29-2023
Originally Posted by Shields68:
Think the problem was his contract. Guessing the Chiefs and Bill's wanted him at the right price. But not willing to give up anything for him and an inflated salary. Rebuilding teams probably rather have someone who has not essentially burned bridges with now 2 teams
At the time the Texans were morons for trading him.

Looking back it was a pretty smart move. The journeyman they signed to replace him was more productive than DHop was.

Yeah, the Texans got a better deal than the Cardinals did...
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Megatron96 11:09 AM 05-29-2023
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother:
I'm sorry but please stop. There's no such thing as a "lock" in the NFL. Please stop with this shit...It's like you guys have never watched an NFL season play out. Last year it was the equally dumb as fuck "It's OK if we don't compete for a title It's a rebuild year!!"


Meh. It's May, and there's a lot of speculations being thrown around right now. Anyway, it's closer to the truth than a lot of the other predictions/declarations in this thread.

Yes, it's somewhat hyperbolic to say that DHop guarantees a SB victory, but that's about the rest of the team, not DHop.

Mahomes/Travis staying healthy and the new OTs working out, at least as well as OBJ/Wylie did last season, are the bigger factors.

And at least one of our new crop of WRs has to perform at least at an NFL average level, and be available for most/all of the season.

The DL has to come together with its new pieces and perform at least 75-85% as well as they did last season.

If those things work out, then yeah, DHop would guarantee a SB appearance/Ring in 2023.

But that's quite a few "Ifs."
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Chris Meck 12:48 PM 05-29-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Meh. It's May, and there's a lot of speculations being thrown around right now. Anyway, it's closer to the truth than a lot of the other predictions/declarations in this thread.

Yes, it's somewhat hyperbolic to say that DHop guarantees a SB victory, but that's about the rest of the team, not DHop.

Mahomes/Travis staying healthy and the new OTs working out, at least as well as OBJ/Wylie did last season, are the bigger factors.

And at least one of our new crop of WRs has to perform at least at an NFL average level, and be available for most/all of the season.

The DL has to come together with its new pieces and perform at least 75-85% as well as they did last season.

If those things work out, then yeah, DHop would guarantee a SB appearance/Ring in 2023.

But that's quite a few "Ifs."
Wanna bet we don't sign him and still make it to the Super Bowl?
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Easy 6 01:11 PM 05-29-2023
Seems pretty clear this guys being an asshat with his demands, or someone would've got him by now
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The Franchise 01:12 PM 05-29-2023
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Seems pretty clear this guys being an asshat with his demands, or someone would've got him by now
Pretty sure his release isn’t official yet.
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Megatron96 01:13 PM 05-29-2023
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Wanna bet we don't sign him and still make it to the Super Bowl?


That’s not the question, or the point I was making.

Can the Chiefs get to/win a SB in 2023? I think so. It becomes more certain with Hopkins.


There’s no question that Hopkins would make getting to another SB significantly easier. And winning it as well, right? That’s the point of having more/better weapons/tools at your disposal.
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Chris Meck 01:20 PM 05-29-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
That’s not the question, or the point I was making.

Can the Chiefs get to/win a SB in 2023? I think so. It becomes more certain with Hopkins.


There’s no question that Hopkins would make getting to another SB significantly easier. And winning it as well, right? That’s the point of having more/better weapons/tools at your disposal.
OR- maybe we have weapons already on hand and the scouting was spot on and the coaching staff will have them ready to kick ass.
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Easy 6 01:21 PM 05-29-2023
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Pretty sure his release isn’t official yet.
Thats weird, all the talk has led me to believe its an open market on him?
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Megatron96 01:23 PM 05-29-2023
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
OR- maybe we have weapons already on hand and the scouting was spot on and the coaching staff will have them ready to kick ass.


Okay. And even if I agree that’s possible.


It doesn’t change the fact that in Andy’s tenure as HC of the Chiefs that’s never happened, particularly as it pertains to the WR room and young/rookie WRs. Or TEs, for that matter.

So while it’s possible, historically the odds just aren’t very favorable in that regard.
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Monticore 02:37 PM 05-29-2023
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Thats weird, all the talk has led me to believe its an open market on him?
I think it’s official tomorrow, team could still trade for him today.
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Chris Meck 05:55 AM 05-30-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Okay. And even if I agree that’s possible.


It doesn’t change the fact that in Andy’s tenure as HC of the Chiefs that’s never happened, particularly as it pertains to the WR room and young/rookie WRs. Or TEs, for that matter.

So while it’s possible, historically the odds just aren’t very favorable in that regard.
What? You actually believe we're screwed? You REALLY think that?

Oh my man.

You still don't think these guys know what they're doing.
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chiefzilla1501 06:43 AM 05-30-2023
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
What? You actually believe we're screwed? You REALLY think that?

Oh my man.

You still don't think these guys know what they're doing.
I don’t think that’s his point. Andy Reid has proven over time he can elevate average to worse receivers in his system. He has had a spotty record of getting great to elite receivers especially developing his own. He had a decent run at the end of Philly after years of guys like thrash/pinkston/FredEx. He has not to date developed a single decent WR since drafting tyreek hill.

So yeah, we will be more than fine. But historically we can’t put a lot of blind faith in it. Hasn’t been one of his stronger suits.
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