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RaidersOftheCellar 05:03 AM 02-04-2023
Super Bowl 2023 expert picks, odds: Early predictions for Chiefs vs. Eagles



By Adam Gretz

The Super Bowl LVII matchup is set, and it is only fitting that it will involve the No. 1 seeds from the AFC and NFC as the Kansas City Chiefs and Philadelphia Eagles meet. It’ll be the first matchup of No. 1 seeds since 2017, when the Eagles beat the Patriots in Super Bowl LII. The Eagles are a small favorite and the over/under opened at 49.5.

Kickoff is set for 6:30 p.m. ET on Sunday, February 12, from State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. The game will be televised nationally on FOX. Kevin Burkhardt and Greg Olsen will broadcast their first Super Bowl.

There is no shortage of storylines with Andy Reid going against his former team and the Kelce brothers (Travis and Jason) facing off. Still, as is usually the case in the NFL everything will ultimately revolve around the two quarterbacks. Specifically the health of Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes.

Neither player has been 100 percent healthy in recent weeks as Hurts has dealt with a shoulder injury, and Mahomes has been playing through a high-ankle sprain. While Mahomes’ mobility seemed limited in the AFC Championship win over the Cincinnati Bengals, he still threw for over 300 yards, two touchdowns and zero interceptions.

Hurts, meanwhile, has not looked quite as strong in recent weeks and has not thrown for more than 160 yards in either of the Eagles’ first two playoff games.

It also helps that he has not needed to throw the football. The Eagles steamrolled through the NFC playoffs, beating the New York Giants and San Francisco 49ers by a combined score of 69-14. As impressive as that run has been, it has also probably been one of the easiest playoff paths for a team in recent memory. After beating up on a mediocre Giants team in the Divisional Round, they got a San Francisco team in the NFC Championship Game that ran out of quarterbacks.

Things will get a lot more difficult against Mahomes and the Chiefs.

One thing to watch is how the Eagles can put pressure on Mahomes. His ability to extend plays under pressure is a big part of what makes the Chiefs offense so dangerous.

Mahomes can excel against any defense, but he is especially lethal against the blitz. The Eagles, however, are one of the best teams in the league to generate pressure without blitzing. They produced the second-highest pressure rate in the league without blitzing during the regular season.

The over/under for the game is set at 49.5. If the over hits, it would be the first time that has happened since Super Bowl LII when the Eagles were 41-33 winners of the New England Patriots.

Another sub-plot to watch: penalties. Carl Cheffers has the referee assignment, and his crews consistently call the most penalties in the NFL, having thrown more than 200 flags seven years in a row. He is the only referee whose crew can make that claim. He officiated Super Bowl LV when Kansas City lost to Tampa Bay, with 15 penalties being called (including 11 on the Chiefs). Eight penalties were called in the first half and set a Super Bowl record for most yards.

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Coochie liquor 08:43 PM 02-04-2023
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
As we saw by the Bengals game, it doesn't matter what anyone picks.
What if Chuck Norris picks KC?
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ptlyon 11:42 AM 02-05-2023
Love that they put in the three Cheffers part for God and all to see
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Straight, No Chaser 12:16 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia:
Yep, don’t see how they survive him. :-)
We are .800 in games with Cheffers. Appears we can overcome the # of flags if we play well.
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RaidersOftheCellar 12:19 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by Straight, No Chaser:
We are .800 in games with Cheffers. Appears we can overcome the # of flags if we play well.
Is there a list of games that he’s officiated?
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Why Not? 01:58 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
As we saw by the Bengals game, it doesn't matter what anyone picks.
"Experts" are some folks that found a way to get companies to pay them to talk about the same shit we discuss for free everyday. For the most part, they don't know anymore than anyone else. It's like the dudes that charge you for betting predictions. If they were so great, everyone would be billionaires.
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Bearcat 02:08 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by Why Not?:
"Experts" are some folks that found a way to get companies to pay them to talk about the same shit we discuss for free everyday. For the most part, they don't know anymore than anyone else. It's like the dudes that charge you for betting predictions. If they were so great, everyone would be billionaires.
One guy thinks the Eagles' run game is going to be the difference... he'd fit in here just fine. :-)

And another guy thinks the Bucs proved something a couple years ago against a practice squad offensive line.


Guys like Kollmann dedicate tons of time to learn the schemes and what not, and even then I'm not sure their predictions are any better/worse than anyone else (he talked himself into the Jags giving the Chiefs major problems)... and yeah, like you said, I'm sure a lot of these guys aren't any more knowledgeable than anyone else who's watched football for years.
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dlphg9 02:25 PM 02-05-2023
I just don't worry about a team that's biggest strength is the run game and their defense.
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CasselGotPeedOn 02:28 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia:
Yep, don’t see how they survive him. :-)
Are you ever not a complete pussy?
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dlphg9 02:30 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
One guy thinks the Eagles' run game is going to be the difference... he'd fit in here just fine. :-)

And another guy thinks the Bucs proved something a couple years ago against a practice squad offensive line.


Guys like Kollmann dedicate tons of time to learn the schemes and what not, and even then I'm not sure their predictions are any better/worse than anyone else (he talked himself into the Jags giving the Chiefs major problems)... and yeah, like you said, I'm sure a lot of these guys aren't any more knowledgeable than anyone else who's watched football for years.
Kollman is more knowledgeable than 99.9% of football fans when it comes to schemes and intricate details of the game. Doesn't mean he knows shit about whos going to actually win.
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Pepe Silvia 05:14 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn:
Are you ever not a complete pussy?
Are you ever not getting pissed on?
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seamonster 08:35 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
I just don't worry about a team that's biggest strength is the run game and their defense.
They've got two #1 receivers with 4.4 speed that have over 1400 yards to go along with the NFC's best tight end and best offensive line. Wouldn't sleep on the Eagles passing.
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jerryaldini 08:43 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
I just don't worry about a team that's biggest strength is the run game and their defense.
The 1990s called. They want their "keys to the game" back.

Every 90s sports bar I watched a game in: "we've got to establish the running game!"
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Oh Snap 10:43 PM 02-05-2023
One thing the eagles are great at is bringing pressure and sacking the QB. Wylie didn't shit his pants as bad in the playoffs. But our tackles aren't great under pressure. Mahomes magic will be needed. And we need to run the ball some to take pressure off.
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tk13 10:59 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by Oh Snap:
One thing the eagles are great at is bringing pressure and sacking the QB. Wylie didn't shit his pants as bad in the playoffs. But our tackles aren't great under pressure. Mahomes magic will be needed. And we need to run the ball some to take pressure off.
It's the key to the game. The Eagles have had one of the easier schedules in a while but their pass rushers are legit talents. They were bad against the run early in the year but I think they've righted the ship a little bit there. But even with the schedule their sack total is only behind the 1984 and 85 Bears and that was probably the greatest pass rush of all time. Brown and Wylie have to be on point or it's going to be a slog.
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Why Not? 11:09 PM 02-05-2023
Originally Posted by seamonster:
They've got two #1 receivers with 4.4 speed that have over 1400 yards to go along with the NFC's best tight end and best offensive line. Wouldn't sleep on the Eagles passing.
It's more about Hurst's hurting shoulder than it is the quality of their wideouts.
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