Originally Posted by tredadda:
Simply put, there is no way KC is in the SB without Veach. His FA signings and drafts are unbelievable. He gets more talent at the end of each round than most GMs get drafting Top 10.
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
1/3
1 third of the starters in yesterday's game in the second half were rookies.
ONE THIRD!
And entering next season, each of them will be in the top ~10% of NFL players in terms of # of post-season games played.
Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia:
Do the Chiefs go to these SBs with Dorsey at the helm?
One has to think that with the Andy and Patrick combination they get one. More than that? Maybe but, definitely not three appearances in four years and they certainly aren’t playing in the AFCCG five years in a row. [Reply]
I don't know what he has or is doing that other GMs don't, but ... hoooooly crap his ability to find gems is just outstanding. Whether it's late-round picks or fleecing teams for players that either fit KC's scheme (see: Giants, New York) or no longer fit KC for whatever reason (see: Dolphins, Miami), dude has been nailing it time and again.
Did they expand their scouting department? (No clue what rules -- if any -- are placed on NFL scouts, tbh.) The coaching staff finding players/mentioning ones they like and suggesting them?
Pats were the same way for a long time, but ... well, the magic seems to be a bit gone there now. (Almost like having a great QB can cover up deficiencies in other areas. :-) )
Whatever the hell it is, other teams will figure it out eventually. Just hope its long after this current run is done. [Reply]
Sustaining success in the NFL is almost impossible given the structure of draft, what you pay the elite QB that you need to have any chance at sustained success, and free agency.
You have to have an outlier like Veach who can continually find good players in the draft despite picking at the end of virtually every round. Finding guys in rounds 4-7 consistently is rare for even the best GMs in the league. He's the Patrick Mahomes of GMs. He's young. He's already at the top imo. At his current trajectory he honestly has a chance to retire in 25 years as the best to ever do it.
We're incredibly blessed to have him and Mahomes for the next decade-plus. We'll always be in the mix for a championship. Which for a lifelong Chiefs fan doesn't even seem real. [Reply]
“While in pursuit of reaching the Super Bowl, the Chiefs developed eight rookies, with the group accounting for 3,721 snaps on either offense or defense, the seventh-most in the league according to Joseph Hefner of Kansas City Sports Network.”
“Mahomes, after all, is just one of 11 players on this year’s roster who played in the Chiefs’ comeback victory against the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowl LIV.” [Reply]
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
Sustaining success in the NFL is almost impossible given the structure of draft, what you pay the elite QB that you need to have any chance at sustained success, and free agency.
You have to have an outlier like Veach who can continually find good players in the draft despite picking at the end of virtually every round. Finding guys in rounds 4-7 consistently is rare for even the best GMs in the league. He's the Patrick Mahomes of GMs. He's young. He's already at the top imo. At his current trajectory he honestly has a chance to retire in 25 years as the best to ever do it.
We're incredibly blessed to have him and Mahomes for the next decade-plus. We'll always be in the mix for a championship. Which for a lifelong Chiefs fan doesn't even seem real.
Not to take anything away from Brad Veech and the scouting dept. putting clown shoes on every other GM in the late rounds, but Andy Reid and the coaches also deserve a lot of credit for building a culture where late round rookies get reps and have a legitimate opportunity to shine. Would Watson, Williams and Pacheco have this level of development if they had been drafted by the Raiders or Browns? [Reply]
Godsend. He's strategic, competent, and poised. Best GM in the NFL. Sprinkle in his innovation and self-awareness and we are light years ahead of his predecessors. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by trndobrd:
Not to take anything away from Brad Veech and the scouting dept. putting clown shoes on every other GM in the late rounds, but Andy Reid and the coaches also deserve a lot of credit for building a culture where late round rookies get reps and have a legitimate opportunity to shine. Would Watson, Williams and Pacheco have this level of development if they had been drafted by the Raiders or Browns?
Nope. Definitely credit to Spags and his staff in particular. What they have done with this secondary this year is nothing short of incredible. [Reply]
Originally Posted by trndobrd:
Not to take anything away from Brad Veech and the scouting dept. putting clown shoes on every other GM in the late rounds, but Andy Reid and the coaches also deserve a lot of credit for building a culture where late round rookies get reps and have a legitimate opportunity to shine. Would Watson, Williams and Pacheco have this level of development if they had been drafted by the Raiders or Browns?
Our coaches' ability to teach and develop is amazing. Bert buys great ingredients, but KC has Executive :-) preparing the cuisine. [Reply]
