I have floated a deal built around Payne for Brown. I don’t think I’d really want Leno back in that one.

Rather just clear the cap (because you’re going to be paying Payne) and keep the draft chest as full as possible.

Sign Andre Dillard as your speculative T while you try to grab one in the draft.
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My thought is that the commanders will not want to maintain Leno and he is a better fit here. Seems like a classic win win if you will. 1 yr for 13m buys the chiefs time to draft and develop or wait for a stronger tackle class next year, if that is the chiefs assessment of the situation. I know that you have more faith in this year's class than the usual media suspects. I can't speak to that because I watched precious little cfb this year.
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Conventional wisdom is that Brown is a premium run blocker and weak pass blocker.

For what it's worth (maybe nothing), most metrics indicate that's not the case. In fact, per PFF anyway, he has NEVER had a better run blocking grade than a pass blocking grade in any season in the league.

PFF also says his last 3 years have all been extremely consistent year over year (not game over game). This kinda tells me that OBJ has probably plateaued and largely is what he's gonna be.

We're now looking at a 3K snap sample size of him having about a 76.5 pass blocking grade and 70 run blocking grade. Both starter caliber with a shade towards being a little better pass blocker than run blocker.

Game over game PFF is REALLY bad. But over 3,000 snaps that's probably a meaningful enough sample to matter.
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Think we could get a 2nd for him? Chicago/Pitt/etc.....
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Just saw this post. I'd do that trade for Payne and a lower pick. I think that Payne would be a great player to put next to George and a hopefully resigned Jones. The cost would be significant tho as both Payne and Jones would need new deals.

Still it would give us a dominant line. I'd still wanna trade up to land a premier LT in this scenario.
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Watching Mahomes on one leg has me irrationally angry and frightened.

If it were me, I'm taking an Anton Harrison, and signing the best RT available and Ngakoue.

Build the best OL you can, and rush the passer on defense. Keeping Mahomes upright is the priority, rush the opposing QB, and every other position is a luxury.
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What do you think of Paris Johnson? It would require us to get into the top 15....but that's not impossible. Worth it if we can get a guy for the next 15 years.
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I don't know. I don't like having to give up multiple picks to go get him.

And Harrison's pass block rating is elite. I don't know that he's a worse fit, honestly.
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I don’t think Paris Johnson is so much better than the guys likely to be available with less of a trade up.

Personally, I’d roll with targeting Bergeron or Harrison or someone like that.


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This is where I keep getting.

If you're not taking one of the 'blue chip' LTs in any given class, you're just flipping a coin either way.

15 doesn't get you a 'blue chip'. Hell, 10 usually doesn't.

I wonder if the Dolphins will be shopping Austin Jackson. He's disappointed there but had some nice potential coming out. He has legit LT tools, IMO and that's something most guys just don't have.

If I could flip a 5th or something for Jackson, i think I'd do that. I'd consider a 4th based on skills but the injury history is worrisome.

I just think a 'Veach Special' at OT is a good idea. Try to find a guy who's lost momentum but has a premier tool box and bring him in at low cost.
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I don't know what you're considering "blue chip" at LT but as a whole with starting LTs in the NFL, you're very wrong with your whole mantra about having to be top 10. It's top 20. I've done that research and posted that research here in the past.

Now if you want to talk about, say, the top 5 tackles in the NFL then your argument still likely fails. Laremy Tunsil was pick 13, for example. Bakhtiari was a 4th rounder and Armstead was a 3rd rounder. I mean, what guys are you putting into your argument? Surely Trent Williams as a #4 overall and probably Tyron Smith as a #9 overall, but you can see already that if you look at those 5 then you're not exactly on par with what you're saying.

I like this tackle class for sure. I think KC can fix both sides in this draft if they're smart about it, similar to what Seattle did last year.
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That's a fair point as Paris's all around game seems like a good match for a team that runs more (provided they don't take OBJ off our hands). Still, even if your predictions of Harrison are spot on, then he'll likely be a fast riser-especially after the combine/pro days where coaches and GMs can see his speed, ability to pass protect, agility, etc, etc.

In other words, we'd still need to trade up for him. I mean if he's a good of a pass protector as his projections say he is then he'll go top 20-if not higher. So we'll still need to move up.
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I've seen some matchups of Orlando Brown Jr with the Patriots if he hits free agency.

Got me thinking about the potential there for a tag and trade situation that sends OBJ and 1-31 to New England for 1-14.

They have the cap space to make a signing like him and they'd be giving up the equivalent of a high 2nd round pick in this situation. It also puts KC in a situation in the draft where they can get their guy at LT.

What do you think of this? Could it be a reality?
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I personally have thought the Cheats make sense. OBJ fits what they need: a LT that can do both, but is best run blocking and probably needs a QB that stays in the pocket.

I've always thought that a 2nd seems like a fair trade. Gives us ammo to move up and get whatever LT we want. Cheats/Steelers/Bears all make a ton of sense as does Indy-where I'm hoping and praying decides to hire EB.
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Guys....I think we need to move on from the LT talk. They'll at the very least tag OBJ.

Go to the draft and if a guy they like falls or something, take him. Worst case scenario you take a guy like Duncan in the first and play him at RT for a year.

But OBJ is here next year. I personally figure he ends up signing a long term deal here this offseason anyway, but the tag makes some sense.
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