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Nzoner's Game Room>Hey Toub, fix your shit!
loochy 01:50 PM 09-25-2022
Biennemy too.

Spags, you're ight this week
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Chiefspants 08:52 PM 11-13-2022
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Shrug.

ST haven't been good this year, but people have been bitching about Toub and the KC ST for what seems like the entirety of the Mahomes era. I agree it's a problem that Toub isn't coaching his guys to play situationally given who we have at QB, but he's proven in the past to be brilliant when KC had arguably the best special teams from like 2013-2017ish.

He's not a bad coach. He's a coordinator who coaches a unit that tends to see the most player turnover from year to year, and he's hitting a rough spot. He tried to get creative this year with Skyy Moore and it blew up in his face. Shit happens.
I like Toub. That's why I bumped the "Fix your **** thread" rather than the many "Toub sucks" threads. I do think he gets too bullish sometimes with returns, trying to block punts, fakes, etc - especially with Mahomes on the offense.

But he's had a disastrous start to the year. We're 8-1 with even an Special Teams output this year. Doesn't mean I want him fired, but I think it's reasonable to point out that our ST has had multiple horrible outings this year -- which is not the norm for Toub.

My guess is he'll fix it by the end of the season.
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Chief Roundup 09:28 PM 11-13-2022
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson:
Not sure why people keep bending over backwards to defend him, he's a problem.
He is just the current flavor for the crowd.
I have heard just as many complaints about Spags and how he needs to go.
There have been many threads about Andy needing to go as well.
This place is just full of over dramatic.......posters.
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Ron Swanson 09:34 PM 11-13-2022
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
He is just the current flavor for the crowd.
I have heard just as many complaints about Spags and how he needs to go.
There have been many threads about Andy needing to go as well.
This place is just full of over dramatic.......posters.
Been a problem for a while now, but it's ok because he coached Devin Hester.
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Chiefspants 03:38 PM 11-27-2022
So let me preface.

1. I don't want Toub fired.
2. I recognize Toub is a legendary ST coach.

But I mean -- we can start calling Toub out on this, right?
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carcosa 03:42 PM 11-27-2022
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
So let me preface.

1. I don't want Toub fire.
2. I recognize Toub is a legendary ST coach.

But I mean -- we can start calling Toub out on this, right?
Toub fucking sucks!!!
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KCUnited 03:42 PM 11-27-2022
Teflon Toub
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JOhn 03:42 PM 11-27-2022
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
So let me preface.

1. I don't want Toub fire.
2. I recognize Toub is a legendary ST coach.

But I mean -- we can start calling Toub out on this, right?
Agreed
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Chiefspants 04:34 PM 11-27-2022
It's been a bad year for Toub. Yikes.
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Chief Roundup 04:39 PM 11-27-2022
I guess Watson letting that punt go out of bounds at the 4 is Toub's fault too?
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Chiefspants 04:40 PM 11-27-2022
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I guess Watson letting that punt go out of bounds at the 4 is Toub's fault too?
No one's saying that.

You can criticize coaches without wanting them fired.
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tredadda 04:41 PM 11-27-2022
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I guess Watson letting that punt go out of bounds at the 4 is Toub's fault too?
Nope, but not playing for a potential fake and his insistence on putting Moore on punt returns is his fault though.
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SD15 04:42 PM 11-27-2022
MVS good catch
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TomBarndtsTwin 04:42 PM 11-27-2022
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I guess Watson letting that punt go out of bounds at the 4 is Toub's fault too?
No, that was a hell of a kick by the punter. Sometimes you just have to tip your hat.

But repeatedly send Moore out for PR’s (something he’s proven he can’t do, at least yet) and not having your team even looking for a potential fake?

Yeah, that’s on Toub.
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RunKC 04:43 PM 11-27-2022
Wow great catch MVS
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carcosa 04:44 PM 11-27-2022
MVS nice catch yes
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