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Rain Man 12:15 AM 03-22-2009
The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



Original post: You can ignore this now.


Spoiler!

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

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kccrow 12:12 PM 08-31-2022
I need an IR and PUP for my team... jeebus.

Have mine in soon.
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kccrow 01:46 PM 08-31-2022


2022 Superior Yeti's Roster

OFFENSE (27)
QB - Patrick Mahomes (1-10/17 - KC)
QB - Chad Henne (FA/20 - KC)

RB - Aaron Jones (5-180/17 - GB)
RB - Tyler Allgeier (4-135/22 - ATL)
RB - Ronald Jones II (FA/22 - KC)

FB - Michael Burton (FA/21 - KC)

TE - Travis Kelce
TE - Cade Otton (3-103/22 - TB)
TE - Noah Gray (5-162 - KC)

WR - JuJu Smith-Schuster (FA/22 - KC)
WR - Gabriel Davis (4-125/20 - BUF)
WR - Tyler Boyd (2-37/16 - CIN)
WR - Donovan Peoples-Jones (5-177/20 - CLE)
WR - Marquez Valdes-Scantling (FA/22 - KC)
WR - Justin Watson (FA/22 - KC)
WR - Justyn Ross (7-251/22 - KC/IR)

OL - Bernhard Raimann (2-62/22 - IND)
OL - Joe Thuney (FA/21 - KC)
OL - Erik McCoy (2-48/19 - NO)
OL - Trey Smith (6-221/21 - KC)
OL - Andrew Wylie (FA/18 - KC)
OL - Josh Ball (4-136/21 - DAL)
OL - Teven Jenkins (1-31/21 - CHI)
OL - Geron Christian (FA/22 - KC)
OL - Connor McGovern (4-126/16 - NYJ)
OL - Bradley Bozeman (6-198/18 - CAR)
OL - Rasheed Walker (7-233/22 - GB)

DEFENSE (23)
DL - Ross Blacklock (1-32/20 - MIN)
DL - Justin Madubuike (2-64/20 - BAL)
DL - Zach Sieler (7-219/18 - MIA)
DL - Daviyon Nixon (4-144/21 - CAR)
DL - Tershawn Wharton (UDFA/20 - KC)

ER - Matt Judon (4-129/16 - NE)
ER - George Karlaftis (1-30/22 - KC)
ER - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (5-159/18 - HOU)
ER - Carlos Dunlap (FA/22 - KC)
ER - Jeffrey Gunter (7-243/22 - CIN)

LB - Cole Holcomb (5-167/19 - WAS)
LB - Logan Wilson (2-63/20 - CIN)
LB - Leo Chenal (3-94/22 - KC)
LB - Isaiah McDuffie (6-208 - GB)

CB - L'Jarius Sneed (4-138/20 - KC)
CB - Paulson Adebo (2-63/21 - NO)
CB - Byron Murphy (1-29/19 - ARZ)
CB - Christian Benford (5-173/22 - IND)
CB - Nazeeh Johnson (7-259/22 - KC/PS)

DB - Jessie Bates (2-52/18 - CIN)
DB - Justin Reid (FA/22 - KC)
DB - Tarvarius Moore (3-86/18 - SF)
DB - Amani Hooker (4-116/19 - TEN)

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K Harrison Butker (FA/17 - KC)
P Tommy Townsend (UDFA/20 - KC)
LS James Winchester

Notes
I hung onto 11 offensive linemen this year just to see what I have stick. It's not looking great at the tackle spots, while the interior is overloaded. I'm hoping one of Josh Ball, Teven Jenkins, Bernhard Raimann, and Rasheed Walker latch onto a spot on the outside and ball out but I might be asking too much. I can't seem to find a solution at the position and might have to spend much higher resources, but if you guys ever need help finding a #2 WR, Safety, or Center, well then I'm your guy... lol.

Cuts
RB - Christopher Carson (7-245/17 - SEA) - Retired from his neck injury. He was a solid back for me.
DL - Carlos Watkins (4-132/17 - DAL) - He's been a very average-at-best player for me and after his recent cut I feel like it's time to just cut my losses.
ER - Oshane Ximines (3-92/19 - NYG) - I thought this might come down to holding Perkins on the roster another year in hopes he ever gets off IR or keeping Ximines who never did anything. I decided to waive goodbye to both and hang onto hopes that Carlos Dunlap has one good year left in him and that I can pick up another rusher in '23.
ER - Ronnie Perkins (3-94/21 - NE)
WR - Olabisi Johnson (7-243/19 - MIN) - After another ACL tear in back-to-back seasons, I'm pretty sure it's time to just let him go.
WR - Rashard Higgins (5-162/16 - CAR) - I've clung to Higgins a while for very modest production. I'd rather take chances elsewhere.
Other cuts: TE Blake Bell (FA/21 - KC), WR Daurice Fountain (FA/21 - KC), WR Corey Coleman (FA/22 - KC), OC Austin Reiter (FA/22 - KC), OL Roderick Johnson (FA/22 - KC), OL Mike Caliendo (UDFA/22 - KC), DL Taylor Stallworth (FA/22 - KC), DL Danny Shelton (FA/22 - KC), LB Elijah Lee (FA/22 - KC), ER Azur Kamara (FA/22 - KC), LB Jermaine Carter (FA/22 - KC), CB Luq Barcoo (FA/22 - KC), DB Deon Bush (FA/22 - KC)

Rookie Report
DE George Karlaftis (1-30): Looks like the real deal and a solid pick, something I could definitely use in the trenches.
OT Bernhard Raimann (2-62): It looks like he may have lost out on the starting gig at LT which is a definite concern for me given my Teven Jenkins situation and him moving to RG. Not that he might not be the future, but I was hopeful Raimann could immediately fill my void LT slot.
LB Leo Chenal (3-94): Chenal looked solid in the preseason but we didn't get much indication about how he'd be used.
TE Cade Otton (3-103): Otton is buried behind long-time vets Brate and Rudolph for now, but had a really good camp.
RB Tyler Allgeier (4-135): Allgeier might start the season behind Patterson and Williams but he has a solid shot to be an early short-yardage and goalline player that evolves into more.
CB Christian Benford (5-173): Benford had a great pre-season and looks like he could be the real deal. He should be the team's 3rd CB to start the season with White on the PUP but could overtake Elam if he starts shaky.
DE Jeffrey Gunter (7-243): Gunter made the Bengals' 53 and had a solid pre-season. He could end up a nice rotational piece, but we'll see.
WR Justyn Ross (7-251): The Chiefs and Ross decided another surgery on his foot was required but he turned heads in mini-camp. He'll spend the year on IR but I'm going to carve out a spot to save him for next year, just in case.
CB Nazeeh Johnson (7-259): The Chiefs are keeping Johnson on the PS, and I would too if there were one. I don't have much space for Johnson but I'm a bit shy on corners so I'll keep him around and hope he develops into the nickel-hybrid player I hoped he would be.
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Rain Man 04:31 PM 09-03-2022
It's a time of change for my team as we part ways with some longtime contributors on defense and start rebuilding. I won't list the cuts who were camp fodder.

Quarterback

Russell Wilson
Sam Ehlinger
Carson Strong (Rookie)

We remain strong here with Russell Wilson, and we like the two young guys behind him.

Notable Cuts: Easton Stick. He's had no chance to prove himself.

Running Back

Alvin Kamara
Rashaad Penny
Isaih Pacheco (Rookie)
Ronald Jones II

Kamara will bounce back this year, and our patience with Rashaad Penny may pay off. We've got some young depth and Ronald Jones will also get some snaps.

Notable Cuts: Damien Williams and Justin Jackson. I wanted to keep Damien, but he was my 54th player. Jackson was a good role player for a while.


Fullback

Michael Burton

We're guaranteed to get every third and short.

Notable Cuts: None

Wide Receiver

Juju Smith-Schuster
Marquez Valdez-Scantling
Donovan Peoples-Jones
Terrace Marshall
Justin Watson
Khalil Shakir (Rookie)
James Washington

We don't have any major stars (yet), but we've got a posse of productive guys if our young guys come through. Peoples-Jones will start in Cleveland. Terrace Marshall has been disappointing so far and is a backup. James Washington barely kept his job over another disappointing second-round pick, Andy Isabella.

Notable Cuts: Andy Isabella, Daurice Fountain, Dazz Newsome, Jerrion Ealy, Justyn Ross. The Andy Isabella experiment is over.

Tight End

Travis Kelce
Blake Bell
Grant Calcaterra (Rookie)

Kelce is of course the best TE in the league. We've got Bell at second string when he recovers, and a rookie to fill out the roster.

Notable cuts: None

Offensive Tackles

Orlando Brown, Jr.
Morgan Moses
Geron Christian
Lucas Niang, G/T

We have two massive starters and some unproven backups.

Notable cuts: None

Guard

Wyatt Teller
Trey Smith
Joe Thuney

This is a talent powerhouse. I'm not even sure which two will start.

Notable cuts: None

Center

Cody Whitehair

We're strong here.

Notable cuts: None

Kicker

Harrison Butker

Best in the business.

Punter

Tommy Townsend

We'll keep Tommy for another year.

Long Snapper

James Winchester

Best in the business

Safety

Jordan Poyer
Justin Reid
Andre Cisco
Deon Bush

Jordan Poyer has been on the team for a decade and gets better every year. Reid and Cisco will battle for a starting spot (Cisco is now a starter in Jacksonville) and Bush will be our enforcer.

Notable cuts: Tyrann Matthieu left in free agency.

Cornerback

Marcus Peters
Coby Bryant (Rookie)
Desmond King
Amik Robertson
Shaun Wade

We're giving a rookie a starting job here and have two solid nickel and dime backs. We're holding on to Wade to give him one more chance to prove himself.

Notable cuts: Deandre Baker, Bashaud Breeland. I'm not sure why Breeland can't hold a job.


Outside Linebacker

Elijah Lee
Leo Chenal (Rookie)
Zach Baun
Anthony Nelson
Cameron McGrone

I constantly invest in this position and can never hit on a starter. We'll start our new free agent Lee and will give Chenal a starting job over our group of underachieving draftees.

Notable cuts: AJ Klein, Jaylon Ferguson. AJ Klein was a very productive mid-round pick for us, but his time has come. Jaylon Ferguson is dead.


Inside Linebacker

Nakobe Dean (Rookie)

We're handing the job to a rookie because we have no other options.

Notable cuts: Anthony Hitchens, Jermaine Carter, Dylan Moses. Hitchens was okay. The other two guys never saw the field for me. Moses was a late-round flyer and never came back from injury.

Defensive end

George Karlaftis (Rookie)
Yetur Gross-Matos
Dorance Armstrong
Carlos Dunlap
Ifeadi Odenigbo

After years of failure drafting at this position, I now have three legitimate NFL starters. I think I'm pretty good here at long last.

Notable cuts: Malik Herring, Azur Kamara, Alex Okafor. I liked the two rookies and Okafor has been productive. I was deep at DE.

Defensive Tackle

Andrew Billings
Tershawn Wharton
Kalia Davis (Rookie)
Marvin Wilson

I'm razor thin here. Billings and Wharton are good as starters, but I'm hoping that my rookie and last year's flyer with Wilson will pay off.

Notable cuts: Taylor Stallworth, Danny Shelton, Jarran Reed (free agent loss), Brandon Williams (Ravens), Star Lotulelei (Bills), Maurice Hurst. Brandon Williams and Star Lotulelei were rocks for me for many years, but their time has come. I'm going to have to start investing in this position after the luxury of having veterans here forever.

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Rain Man 04:37 PM 09-03-2022
Overall, I think my offense is strong if I can get some of my wide receivers to step up. That's my only real vulnerability on offense.

Defense is a chapter not yet written. I lost several productive long-time veterans, so my depth is thin. I'm starting four rookies at DE, ILB, OLB, and CB. My depth is okay in the backfield and at DE, but I'm very thin at DT and the LB corps. I need my rookies to play well.
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tyecopeland 08:22 AM 09-04-2022
If I began right now, I'd get all the Chiefs players. Then in any future years, their lost free agents from this current roster would be my lost free agents?

I can only add free agents the Chiefs sign?

So the only real way to get different players is via the draft and by not accepting trades the Chiefs took?
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kccrow 05:08 PM 09-04-2022
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
If I began right now, I'd get all the Chiefs players. Then in any future years, their lost free agents from this current roster would be my lost free agents?

I can only add free agents the Chiefs sign?

So the only real way to get different players is via the draft and by not accepting trades the Chiefs took?
Yep, pretty much. If the Chiefs cut a player though, you can choose not to. Like, say when they cut Fisher or cut Houston, we could keep them. I actually kept Houston for a couple of years afterward.

It's geared hard towards draft eval.
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