So there's an article on NFL network saying that Orlando Brown is expected to sign for 6 years $145 mil.
That comes to $24.16 mil/yr and makes him the highest paid offensive lineman in football. It also would give him the 19th highest salary per year in the NFL
How would you feel if that is the contract he ended up signing?
I'm fine with it. He is a top 5 LT and he's only 26 next season. A young great LT is a guy you can't let leave. [Reply]
In short, Brown would’ve had a deal that effectively paid $18.2 million per year, which ranked eighth among offensive tackles. He was looking for a deal at the top of the market. Minus the dummy year on the back end of the deal, the #Chiefs didn’t offer that.
In short, Brown would’ve had a deal that effectively paid $18.2 million per year, which ranked eighth among offensive tackles. He was looking for a deal at the top of the market. Minus the dummy year on the back end of the deal, the #Chiefs didn’t offer that.
Originally Posted by Razaele:
It's possible this might be best for the Chiefs anyway. We get another year to evaluate whether Brown is worth giving a long term deal to, and we only risk the franchise tag cap number. If he proves to be an ascending player and we bring him back, we know we make a safe investment. If he doesn't take a step forward we've got a whole season and an offseason to plan for the future.
This is where I'm at....and way to redeem yourself after the "Jake" Long Miami post. [Reply]
Wonder if Lane Johnson trade rumors are still on the table for Philly? Could go get him and have him play LT IF OBJ sits out and then move Lane over to RT if/when OBJ comes back. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
And by the way, Orlando, this is what you're worth. Know your worth.
You can make up the difference by investing wisely with zero issue but now if you tank this season you'll never get generational wealth.
First, the roughly 10mm post-tax he'll have made in his career after this season would represent generational wealth for the majority of people on the planet.
Second, "know your worth"? Was he free to negotiate with all 32 teams as a free agent? Pretty sure some other teams would've topped Veach's offer and placed a higher "worth" on him.
The franchise tag slows down the gears of a free market. Kudos to him for taking the risk and trying to do better.
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
First, the roughly 10mm post-tax he'll have made in his career after this season would represent generational wealth for the majority of people on the planet.
Second, "know your worth"? Was he free to negotiate with all 32 teams as a free agent? Pretty sure some other teams would've topped Veach's offer and placed a higher "worth" on him.
The franchise tag slows down the gears of a free market. Kudos to him for taking the risk and trying to do better.
Das Kapital! Workers of the world, unite!
The Chiefs did NOT have an exclusive tag on him, make the Chiefs an offer if you are prepared to guarantee 80 million of the contract over the first 4 years. Then they he can get his money after he signs the tag [Reply]
Second, "know your worth"? Was he free to negotiate with all 32 teams as a free agent? Pretty sure some other teams would've topped Veach's offer and placed a higher "worth" on him.
The franchise tag slows down the gears of a free market. Kudos to him for taking the risk and trying to do better.
Das Kapital! Workers of the world, unite!
The non exclusive franchise tag allows Brown to negotiate with other teams. Brown didn't go out to get other offers as this would work out fairly well for the Chiefs as they would get two 1st round Comp picks. [Reply]
T Orlando Brown is currently still weighing all options with respect to his decision on whether or not to report to #Chiefs training camp, per league source.
The sides are not expected to reach an agreement on a long-term deal on today's deadline. Brown's tag offer is unsigned.
— IG: JosinaAnderson (@JosinaAnderson) July 15, 2022
Originally Posted by Oxford:
The Chiefs did NOT have an exclusive tag on him, make the Chiefs an offer if you are prepared to guarantee 80 million of the contract over the first 4 years. Then they he can get his money after he signs the tag
That still still doesn’t allow him to attain whatever value he’s be able to get as a free agent. You have to give up compensation to get him AND negotiate a deal. [Reply]
T Orlando Brown is currently still weighing all options with respect to his decision on whether or not to report to #Chiefs training camp, per league source.
The sides are not expected to reach an agreement on a long-term deal on today's deadline. Brown's tag offer is unsigned.
— IG: JosinaAnderson (@JosinaAnderson) July 15, 2022
I guarantee that he is on the field as LT week 1. That's all I care about. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
First, the roughly 10mm post-tax he'll have made in his career after this season would represent generational wealth for the majority of people on the planet.
Second, "know your worth"? Was he free to negotiate with all 32 teams as a free agent? Pretty sure some other teams would've topped Veach's offer and placed a higher "worth" on him.
The franchise tag slows down the gears of a free market. Kudos to him for taking the risk and trying to do better.
Das Kapital! Workers of the world, unite!
The $3.5 million he's already made in his career would be 'generational wealth' by most standards.
He may not have been on the open market, but should Brown have had the expectation that as a tackle in the #10-#15 range across the league, he'd do better than a contract with an AAV similar to Trent Williams'?
No, if he "resets the market" he won't do it by much more than this. He'll just get more guarantees against the chance that he might not live up to the deal. That has nothing to do with knowing his worth, it is a hedge against not knowing what he will be worth over the next 2-3 offseasons. He wants to be sure he gets paid even if he's not worth it.
Brown's position seems contradictory - he's willing to risk a big deal by playing under the tag this year and betting his play will improve, but he's not willing to take a Trent Williams type deal unless it's mostly guaranteed.
The man can conduct his business however he likes, and Veach drew a line in the sand. We shouldn't pay elite money for good but not great players, and it looks like we won't.
I'm sure a poverty team with lots of cap room would give Orlando Brown a big contract, but much like the Tyreek Hill contract, this isn't something well-run franchises usually do. Elite money should require you to be elite and to spend the term of the contract in your prime. [Reply]