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Titty Meat 11:21 PM 01-19-2024
Y'all want to ride with Smith for another year or give Morris a chance? Because there's probably several good to decent prospects who likely will be there when the Chiefs pick.
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DJ's left nut 02:05 PM 03-19-2024
Y'all talking about Foster?

Oh c'mon fellas. He's a 3rd round pick tops. My druthers would look at him in the 4th.

Not terribly athletic, heavy feet. Mauler of an OT and I don't think there's a chance in hell he plays LT.

We have people wanting to say that Morgan can't play LT because his arms are a half inch too short but others wanting to say that Foster CAN when his feet look like they're on the wrong legs? Yikes.

Foster in the 2nd round would be a truly truly TRULY awful pick. As bad as they'll come. But I'm not worried about that because there's zero chance it happens.
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staylor26 02:08 PM 03-19-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Y'all talking about Foster?

Oh c'mon fellas. He's a 3rd round pick tops. My druthers would look at him in the 4th.

Not terribly athletic, heavy feet. Mauler of an OT and I don't think there's a chance in hell he plays LT.

We have people wanting to say that Morgan can't play LT because his arms are a half inch too short but others wanting to say that Foster CAN when his feet look like they're on the wrong legs? Yikes.

Foster in the 2nd round would be a truly truly TRULY awful pick. As bad as they'll come. But I'm not worried about that because there's zero chance it happens.
No, Blake Fisher.

Foster is completely off my radar, so I thought it was a typo.
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Nightfyre 03:10 PM 03-19-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Y'all talking about Foster?

Oh c'mon fellas. He's a 3rd round pick tops. My druthers would look at him in the 4th.

Not terribly athletic, heavy feet. Mauler of an OT and I don't think there's a chance in hell he plays LT.

We have people wanting to say that Morgan can't play LT because his arms are a half inch too short but others wanting to say that Foster CAN when his feet look like they're on the wrong legs? Yikes.

Foster in the 2nd round would be a truly truly TRULY awful pick. As bad as they'll come. But I'm not worried about that because there's zero chance it happens.
What's wrong with taking a stab at Foster in the fourth or fifth as a developmental guy for the right side?
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Chiefnj2 03:13 PM 03-19-2024
Would you guys take Mims in the first round? He looks like a complete boom/bust prospect. It's doubtful he could start in year one with only 8 starts at RT in his career.
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DJ's left nut 03:15 PM 03-19-2024
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
What's wrong with taking a stab at Foster in the fourth or fifth as a developmental guy for the right side?
Nothing in the 4th or 5th. Like i said, the 4th is when I'd start looking at him.

I thought people were trying to talk themselves into Foster in the 2nd -- "I'm thinking about the kid from Missouri" and that was just crazy-town to me.
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Chris Meck 03:53 PM 03-19-2024
We're not getting anywhere near a sure-fire LT, guys. Not happening.

A RT, perhaps, maybe even one that MIGHT be able to switch, but that's the best we'll be able to do.

I wouldn't complain if they take a kid with the athletic abilities and let Taylor, Morris, and the kid figure it out, but we're not going to be in position to get a legit starter LT.
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DJ's left nut 04:11 PM 03-19-2024
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
We're not getting anywhere near a sure-fire LT, guys. Not happening.

A RT, perhaps, maybe even one that MIGHT be able to switch, but that's the best we'll be able to do.

I wouldn't complain if they take a kid with the athletic abilities and let Taylor, Morris, and the kid figure it out, but we're not going to be in position to get a legit starter LT.
I mean there might only be 2 of those guys in the draft. Which is 1 more than normal.

Alt and Fashanu - end of list. Fuaga is interesting in his own right but if we're dinging for arm length, his are like 1/5 of an inch longer than Morgan's. And he's less athletic or technically sound than Morgan, IMO. Fautanu is probably my OT3 and even he played RT last year (though that was evidently because Penix is a lefty and he played LT before that, so I'm less concerned there).

But if he's there at 15 am I giving up 2 first rounders and Sneed to get up and get him? When I can possibly just get Morgan or Suamataia at 32? No. not even a consideration. I think he's the clear 3rd best fit for us but I don't think he's THAT much of a sure thing.

If he slides to 24 or something and I can give up a 3 and some change next season to go get him - sure. But that strikes me as unlikely.

I just think we spend an awful lot of time picking nits on guys as though we'll EVER see someone in the late 1st that doesn't have 'em. Every single guy we draft in the Mahomes era is likely to be in the bottom 1/3 of the round. And as a consequence, every last one of those guys is going to have us shitting on them for what they're not.

Let's stop doing that.
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Chris Meck 05:02 PM 03-19-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I mean there might only be 2 of those guys in the draft. Which is 1 more than normal.

Alt and Fashanu - end of list. Fuaga is interesting in his own right but if we're dinging for arm length, his are like 1/5 of an inch longer than Morgan's. And he's less athletic or technically sound than Morgan, IMO. Fautanu is probably my OT3 and even he played RT last year (though that was evidently because Penix is a lefty and he played LT before that, so I'm less concerned there).

But if he's there at 15 am I giving up 2 first rounders and Sneed to get up and get him? When I can possibly just get Morgan or Suamataia at 32? No. not even a consideration. I think he's the clear 3rd best fit for us but I don't think he's THAT much of a sure thing.

If he slides to 24 or something and I can give up a 3 and some change next season to go get him - sure. But that strikes me as unlikely.

I just think we spend an awful lot of time picking nits on guys as though we'll EVER see someone in the late 1st that doesn't have 'em. Every single guy we draft in the Mahomes era is likely to be in the bottom 1/3 of the round. And as a consequence, every last one of those guys is going to have us shitting on them for what they're not.

Let's stop doing that.
I'm not at all. I'm of the "just keep stacking good football players" school.
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kccrow 07:17 PM 03-19-2024
On arm length of OTs, remember that Andy Reid traded for Jason Peters who had 33-1/8" arms and was 6'4".

Fautanu having 34-1/2" arms at 6'4" fits. Jordan Morgan at 32-7/8" isn't so far off that I think it matters that much.
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Coogs 05:04 AM 03-20-2024
I haven't watched all of Fautanu's tape, but he was playing LT last season vs Michigan anyway. Looked pretty darn good at it too.
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O.city 06:59 AM 03-20-2024
Morgan is super athletic. Andy and company will love that shit.
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VAChief 08:26 AM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
Morgan is super athletic. Andy and company will love that shit.
Yes, and like I have said before, he gives you options in the future to play just about anywhere on the line. I think his upside even in year one is greater than anyone we have had there since a healthy Fisher.

Of course nothing is certain at that point in the first, but this obsession with arm length could work out to our benefit. In a normal draft year, I don't think he falls to the end of the 1st and he still might not...my fear is the 49ers snag him right before us.
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Couch-Potato 12:17 PM 03-20-2024
Can we come up with a list of OT Tiers in the upcoming draft by say round and add it to the OP?
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staylor26 01:03 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by VAChief:
Yes, and like I have said before, he gives you options in the future to play just about anywhere on the line. I think his upside even in year one is greater than anyone we have had there since a healthy Fisher.

Of course nothing is certain at that point in the first, but this obsession with arm length could work out to our benefit. In a normal draft year, I don't think he falls to the end of the 1st and he still might not...my fear is the 49ers snag him right before us.
Every time I think about drafting an OT, I remind myself that there's a really good chance we'll have to get in front of the 49ers.
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kccrow 01:18 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Every time I think about drafting an OT, I remind myself that there's a really good chance we'll have to get in front of the 49ers.
They doubled down on stupid and extended McKivitz. So, unless they go for a future replacement for Trent Williams in the 1st, I have my doubts. I'd guess CB or ER for them myself.
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