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Chris Meck 10:30 AM 01-01-2024
I tell you what-

I know the position is undervalued, but Pacheco is an awfully important piece of this offense now, and moving forward. He's also going to wear down fast.

I'd like to address the RB2/split time spot in this draft. Mckinnon is probably close to done, and Clyde is not an answer long-term.

Who do you like? I'm not saying first round, or even second-but by the mid rounds, I'd be looking for an all-around back to split time with Pacheco.
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Couch-Potato 01:34 PM 02-26-2024
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
Guerendo is a burner.

Guerendo won the state title with a jump of 24 feet, 5 inches, or 2 inches off the meet record. He has the states top marks this year in the 100 meters (10.52), 200 meters (21.61) and long jump (24-1 ). Avon had the fastest 400 relay time of regionals (41.73).

https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ory/651367002/

Guerendo, who returned kickoffs in high school, has been timed at 4.34 seconds in the 40-yard dash and hit 23 mph last season during his 82-yard touchdown run against Eastern Michigan.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...te/7958417001/
Love this kid too!
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JPH83 01:49 PM 02-26-2024
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Love this kid too!
Yeah I'm on the train. Wonder how much the combine screws chances of him being a late round pick up
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Hoover 01:56 PM 02-26-2024
I'm a little late to this thread.

I'm from the camp that you should NEVER give a running back a second contract. NEVER

Treat them like they're disposable.

So this is a position group where the Chiefs can get younger, cheaper, and more talented.

My plan would use one of our 5th round picks on a RB, and then I'd go and sign Antonio Gibson to a little deal and sit back and see how that improved this offense, because I have no doubt that it would.
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Tribal Warfare 01:56 PM 02-26-2024
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
Guerendo is a burner.

Guerendo won the state title with a jump of 24 feet, 5 inches, or 2 inches off the meet record. He has the states top marks this year in the 100 meters (10.52), 200 meters (21.61) and long jump (24-1 ). Avon had the fastest 400 relay time of regionals (41.73).

https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ory/651367002/

Guerendo, who returned kickoffs in high school, has been timed at 4.34 seconds in the 40-yard dash and hit 23 mph last season during his 82-yard touchdown run against Eastern Michigan.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...te/7958417001/
Definitely hits the speed score earmarks, if Veach is favoring metrics like he did with Pacheco he could be a guy to watch
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Hoover 02:22 PM 02-26-2024
I'm a little late to this thread.

I'm from the camp that you should NEVER give a running back a second contract. NEVER

Treat them like they're disposable.

So this is a position group where the Chiefs can get younger, cheaper, and more talented.

My plan would use one of our 5th round picks on a RB, and then I'd go and sign Antonio Gibson to a little deal and sit back and see how that improved this offense, because I have no doubt that it would.
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Dante84 03:47 PM 02-26-2024
Jonathan Brooks - Reminds of Jamaal with that hair and the longhorn jersey. Curious how he looks post-injury.
Spoiler!


Emani Bailey
Spoiler!


Marshawn Lloyd
Spoiler!


Jawhar Jordan
Spoiler!


Kendall Milton
Spoiler!


Braelon Allen - Love this kid!
Spoiler!

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Couch-Potato 04:54 PM 02-26-2024
I really like Lloyd too!
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Couch-Potato 06:42 PM 02-26-2024
NFL Combine RBs:

Rasheen Ali, Marshall
Braelon Allen, Wisconsin
Emani Bailey, TCU
Trey Benson, Florida State
Jonathon Brooks, Texas
Blake Corum, Michigan
Isaiah Davis, South Dakota State
Ray Davis, Kentucky
Daijun Edwards, Georgia
Audric Estim, Notre Dame
Frank Gore Jr., Southern Mississippi
Isaac Guerendo, Louisville
George Holani, Boise State
Bucky Irving, Oregon
Dillon Johnson, Washington
Jawhar Jordan, Louisville
Dylan Laube, New Hampshire
MarShawn Lloyd, USC
Jase McClellan, Alabama
Kendall Milton, Georgia
Keilan Robinson, Texas
Cody Schrader, Missouri
Will Shipley, Clemson
Jaden Shirden, Monmouth
Tyrone Tracy Jr., Purdue
Kimani Vidal, Troy
Michael Wiley, Arizona
Miyan Williams, Ohio State
Jaylen Wright, Tennessee

Saturday, March 2nd, 1pm ET – Quarterbacks, Wide Receivers, Running Backs!
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Dante84 06:46 PM 02-26-2024
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
What about Braelon Allen rb Wisconsin? It looks Guerendo got stuck behind him there?

Allen is a freak.

Made Bruce Feldman's 2023 Freak's List - ranked #34. He wrote "Last year he made it on the strength of his power-cleaning 406 pounds and clocking a 1.49 in his 10-yard split. He benched 365. Allen has bulked up 10 more pounds to 245 now. Im bigger, but I am leaner now, Allen says. I went from 11 percent body fat to 8 percent this offseason. Im definitely faster now."

Allen squatted 600 lbs also and clocked at 20 mph on the gps. And most sites have his 40 at 4.4. Hes got plenty of production at Wisconsin. And hes super young at 20 years old.
Man, Im surprised this guy isnt being talked about more. Hes huge AND fast AND has zero fumbles AND averages almost 6pc AND shows patience & shiftiness & runs through dudes.
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kccrow 07:49 PM 02-26-2024
There's kind of a reason I think we haven't talked about Allen and Estime much on this board and that's because they carry 2nd to early 3rd grades. I don't think any of us want to spend that kind of draft capital on a RB right now. I don't know that you spend it with a solid starter on the payroll for two more seasons. Now, Milton in the 5th? Yes, please.
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kccrow 07:56 PM 02-26-2024
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
Thoughts on Kimani Vidal?

A bit shorter than Pachecho but seems to run a lot smoother.
Not getting national love but probably a guy that goes anywhere in that 4th to 6th area. He's probably a 4.6x guy and he's kinda short. Not a problem really for an RB just stating what I see. I wouldn't have an issue with him being a Chief.
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O.city 08:03 PM 02-26-2024
I'd spend a 2nd on a RB, if he can be a legit pass catching 3 down guy.
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kcbubb 09:37 AM 02-29-2024
This draft looks super deep to me. If we compare previous drafts, think about when we drafted CEH, how does he compare to Blake corum? Wouldn’t you pick corum over CEH? Corum has production and is a better athlete. I point this out because of the depth of this draft. I don’t necessarily want corum but I wouldn’t be upset with the pick at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if corum fell to the early third round. guerendo is a better value in the 4th or 5th and I love his upside with his size and speed in our offense.

Corum clocked 21.1 on the gps and is built thick like CEH. He’s faster. Take a look at this.

https://twitter.com/RAanalytics/stat...s-his-speed%2F
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kcbubb 10:30 AM 02-29-2024
Originally Posted by kccrow:
There's kind of a reason I think we haven't talked about Allen and Estime much on this board and that's because they carry 2nd to early 3rd grades. I don't think any of us want to spend that kind of draft capital on a RB right now. I don't know that you spend it with a solid starter on the payroll for two more seasons. Now, Milton in the 5th? Yes, please.
In the past two drafts, only 3 RBs have been taken in rounds 1 & 2. The 4th-8th RBs taken were drafted in rounds 3 & 4 in 2023. In 2022, RBs 4-11 were selected in rounds 3 & 4. I’ve seen estime around 5, so he’s likely a late 3rd round pick but a Braelon Allen has been ranked all over from 6th to 10th. So, Allen could possibly be drafted in the 4th? Please see below for the last two years of rbs draft position. The 8th rb taken has been in the 4th round in the last two years. How many rbs do you see taken in each round?




2023 1 1 8 8 Bijan Robinson Falcons Texas
2 1 12 12 Jahmyr Gibbs Lions Alabama
3 2 21 52 Zach Charbonnet Seahawks UCLA
4 3 8 71 Kendre Miller Saints Texas Christian
5 3 18 81 Tyjae Spears Titans Tulane
6 3 21 84 Devon Achane Dolphins Texas A&M
7 3 25 88 Tank Bigsby Jaguars Auburn
8 4 13 115 Roschon Johnson Bears Texas
9 5 8 143 Israel Abanikanda Jets Pittsburgh
10 5 28 163 Chase Brown Bengals Illinois
11 5 37 172 Eric Gray Giants Oklahoma
12 5 41 176 Evan Hull Colts Northwestern
13 6 16 193 Chris Rodriguez Commanders Kentucky
14 6 35 212 Deuce Vaughn Cowboys Kansas State
15 6 38 215 Zach Evans Rams Mississippi
16 7 5 222 DeWayne McBride Vikings Alab-Birm
17 7 18 235 Lew Nichols Packers Central Michigan
18 7 20 237 Kenny McIntosh Seahawks Georgia

2022 1 2 4 36 Breece Hall Jets Iowa State
2 2 9 41 Kenneth Walker Seahawks Michigan State
3 2 31 63 James Cook Bills Georgia
4 3 27 91 Rachaad White Buccaneers Arizona State
5 3 29 93 Tyrion Davis-Price 49ers Louisiana State
6 3 34 98 Brian Robinson Commanders Alabama
7 4 2 107 Dameon Pierce Texans Florida
8 4 17 122 Zamir White Raiders Georgia
9 4 18 123 Isaiah Spiller Chargers Texas A&M
10 4 22 127 Pierre Strong Patriots South Dakota State
11 4 26 131 Hassan Haskins Titans Michigan
12 5 8 151 Tyler Allgeier Falcons Brigham Young
13 5 11 154 Snoop Conner Jaguars Mississippi
14 5 13 156 Jerome Ford Browns Cincinnati
15 5 21 164 Kyren Williams Rams Notre Dame
16 5 26 169 Ty Chandler Vikings North Carolina
17 6 4 183 Kevin Harris Patriots South Carolina
18 6 17 196 Tyler Badie Ravens Missouri
19 6 22 201 Keaontay Ingram Cardinals USC
20 6 24 203 Trestan Ebner Bears Baylor
21 6 29 208 Connor Heyward Steelers Michigan State
22 7 29 250 Brittain Brown Raiders UCLA
23 7 30 251 Isaih Pacheco Chiefs Rutgers
24 7 39 260 Zander Horvath Chargers Purdue
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kccrow 04:14 PM 02-29-2024
The averages over the last 6 drafts:
R1 1.5, R2 2.5, R3 3.2, R4 3.8, R5 2.7, R6 3.7, R7 3.0

The likelihood of a R1 RB this year? Probably Zero. I think it'll look like a blend of 2022 and 2019... ish. And those just happen to be the two years in that span with higher than average (20) numbers of backs taken (22 and 23, respectively). I have 25 draftable RBs. Of course, a few might go undrafted.

Here's my take...

Round 2
Jonathan Brooks, Texas
Trey Benson, Florida State
Jaylen Wright, Tennessee

Round 3
Braelon Allen, Wisconsin
Blake Corum, Michigan
Audric Estime, Notre Dame
Will Shipley, Clemson

Round 4
Bucky Irving, Oregon
Marshawn Lloyd, USC
Frank Gore Jr, Southern Miss
Cody Schrader, Missouri

Round 5
Isaac Guerendo, Louisville
Kendall Milton, Georgia
Emani Bailey, TCU
Kimani Vidal, Troy

Round 6
Daijun Edwards, Georgia
Jase McClellin, Alabama
Dylan Laube, New Hampshire
Blake Watson, Memphis
Jawhar Jordan, Louisville

Round 7
Ray Davis, Kentucky
Isaiah Davis, South Dakota State
Miyan Williams, Ohio State
Carson Steele, UCLA
Dillon Johnson, Washington

Wildcards
Michael Wiley, Arizona
Jaden Shirden, Monmouth
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