That's actually pretty fascinating. "He's a shitheel because he's got the sugars..."
I mean - that does kinda make some sense? And it might help explain why I think he's been a bit of a disappointment at Texas despite traits that really do jump off the screen to me.
But I think Buffalo probably takes him and it's Franklin that we're likely to get a shot at. And to me that would be...okay. [Reply]
That's actually pretty fascinating. "He's a shitheel because he's got the sugars..."
I mean - that does kinda make some sense? And it might help explain why I think he's been a bit of a disappointment at Texas despite traits that really do jump off the screen to me.
But I think Buffalo probably takes him and it's Franklin that we're likely to get a shot at. And to me that would be...okay.
I admittedly don't know a ton about Diabetus except what I learned from an old cowboy on a medical commercial. But isn't it pretty manageable especially with training staff help in 2024? [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
That's interesting re: Mitchell. Keeping his blood sugar level during a game should be something an NFL staff can handle better than a college one. You do wonder if MAYBE some of the lackadaisical effort you see at times is related to that.
DJ, crow, re: Jermaine Burton, if he was less of a shit-head, do you slot him higher?
I think he's a round 2 talent with character concerns that drop him a round or 2.
Yeah.
But aunts and balls and bicycles and what not.
I can't recall too many prospects of late as universally regarded as a shit-head as Burton seems to be. I mean Pickens was close and look how that's going. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
I admittedly don't know a ton about Diabetus except what I learned from an old cowboy on a medical commercial. But isn't it pretty manageable especially with training staff help in 2024?
That's my understanding, yes. Which gets to the scouts point - CAN be managed doesn't mean IS being managed. If he's being an idiot about it (and many MANY people around that age are idiots about that sort of thing; wife works in pediatrics and says teenagers oftentimes refuse to follow their treatments to prove they're in charge...because kids are stupid) then what can be done isn't terribly relevant if it isn't being done.
And as the first guy said - is that just a maturity thing? Could be. Just an interesting thing to think about. [Reply]
I can't recall too many prospects of late as universally regarded as a shit-head as Burton seems to be. I mean Pickens was close and look how that's going.
I don't remember any specifics about Pickens just that there was off field concerns. Burtons built a resume out of transfers. I think Pickens was even a better prospect but was coming off the ACL so its hard to compare when projecting the slide. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
I don't remember any specifics about Pickens just that there was off field concerns. Burtons built a resume out of transfers. I think Pickens was even a better prospect but was coming off the ACL so its hard to compare when projecting the slide.
Absolutely. Pickens as a pure talent was an incredible prospect and I'd have him ahead of Odunze in this class.
And I still wish we had him. The talent's that loud. And good luck showing up Patrick fucking Mahomes - that guy will eat your soul. I think it would've worked here far better than it's worked in Pittsburgh (and it hasn't gone THAT poorly in Pittsburgh).
But the headache is real. So the talent damn sure better be. Pickens was a top 15 talent but a guy with a reputation as being a pain in the ass. Burton is a top 50 talent and a similar reputation. If you're the 45th best prospect, is the juice still worth the squeeze?
Well that's the million dollar question, innit? [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Absolutely. Pickens as a pure talent was an incredible prospect and I'd have him ahead of Odunze in this class.
And I still wish we had him. The talent's that loud. And good luck showing up Patrick ****ing Mahomes - that guy will eat your soul. I think it would've worked here far better than it's worked in Pittsburgh (and it hasn't gone THAT poorly in Pittsburgh).
But the headache is real. So the talent damn sure better be. Pickens was a top 15 talent but a guy with a reputation as being a pain in the ass. Burton is a top 50 talent and a similar reputation. If you're the 45th best prospect, is the juice still worth the squeeze?
Well that's the million dollar question, innit?
I'd have to think there's a chance he's there at the end of the 3rd then. And I think that's worth the squeeze. There's a chance with he issues and depth of the class teams aren't that interested. [Reply]
I'm fairly confident the only WR's that have first round grades are the top 4 guys.
That's not to say teams aren't going to draft other players at the end of the first, but I think teams don't have first round grades on the other players.
I also think there is probably zero consensus on the second and third round WRs. Each player is so vastly different. Keon Coleman for example is #22 at 33rd team, #43 for Jeremiah, #59 for Edholm. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
If Burton is still sitting there at 94, you sprint to the podium, even if you drafted a WR in the 1st or 2nd.
He seems like a classic Andy Reid pick from the past although it seems like since Andy’s gotten older he doesn’t want to deal with character guys as much which probably explains taking Skyy over Pickens. Rashee Rice was mostly clean minus a few questions about his friends (we all saw what happened there).
But yeah if he’s there in rd 3 I say get him. Burning a 3rd on a talent like him wouldn’t be a major loss if it didn’t work out. Worth the risk. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
I'm fairly confident the only WR's that have first round grades are the top 4 guys.
That's not to say teams aren't going to draft other players at the end of the first, but I think teams don't have first round grades on the other players.
I also think there is probably zero consensus on the second and third round WRs. Each player is so vastly different. Keon Coleman for example is #22 at 33rd team, #43 for Jeremiah, #59 for Edholm.
I've seen Johnny Wilson graded as an early 2nd rounder at times. I think some really god-awful mock had us taking him at 32 a few weeks back.
The WR class past the first 4 is a complete toss-up, IMO. Like I've said before, it's why I'm not typically a huge fan of WR in the first round. I'm almost certainly going to be fine waiting until 64 (or more likely, trading up to about 50) and getting what's left.
Mitchell is the only guy I see who isn't a consensus first rounder that I think might be a 'first round grade' type of prospect. He's the monkey in the wrench when I do mock draft stuff. Would I be fine taking him at 32 and then hoping Kinglsey or Paul falls to the mid/late 2nd? Do I like Morgan/Walker more than Mitchell/Kingsley at the same general level of required draft capital?
Shit man, I dunno.
And when that happens, I just kinda fall back to "fuck it - just race the track and not the drivers. Play your board and let everyone else do what they do..." [Reply]
