Sources: Four-time Pro Bowl tackle and Super Bowl champ Orlando Brown Jr. is finalizing a four-year, $64.092 million front-loaded deal with the #Bengals that includes an over $31M signing bonus — largest ever for an o-lineman.
It was interesting to hear the local sports talk shows talking about the Taylor vs. Brown contracts. One of the local guys couldn't believe that KC would let Brown go and pay more for Taylor than Brown got in the Cincy deal.
And they were making him out to be this great Left Tackle that was Mahomes best protector.
Some of the local chat seemed more about frustration in losing Taylor with that leaving them Walker Little and Cam Robinson (who has had some injury issues) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mosbonian:
For some reason I thought I read Orlando Brown's workout at the Combine was one of the worst ever seen....
It was, or so I heard. But he did better at his pro day later. Again, not a huge difference, but he posted better stats than he did at the Combine. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mosbonian:
It was interesting to hear the local sports talk shows talking about the Taylor vs. Brown contracts. One of the local guys couldn't believe that KC would let Brown go and pay more for Taylor than Brown got in the Cincy deal.
And they were making him out to be this great Left Tackle that was Mahomes best protector.
Some of the local chat seemed more about frustration in losing Taylor with that leaving them Walker Little and Cam Robinson (who has had some injury issues)
They obviously didn't actually watch his tape. And I'm not saying OBJ was trash, because I still remember Cam Erving/Remmers quite clearly. Those guys were trash.
But OBJ isn't elite by any stretch. At best he's better than average, and that's it. At least in pass-pro. His strength or wheelhouse, is as a run-blocker.
EDIT: forgot just how many pressures he gave up, I know, how could i? He's well below average as a pass-pro OT. He's just not Cam bad. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
They obviously didn't actually watch his tape. And I'm not saying OBJ was trash, because I still remember Cam Erving/Remmers quite clearly. Those guys were trash.
But OBJ isn't elite by any stretch. At best he's better than average, and that's it. At least in pass-pro. His strength or wheelhouse, is as a run-blocker.
EDIT: forgot just how many pressures he gave up, I know, how could i? He's well below average as a pass-pro OT. He's just not Cam bad.
He pretty much was a swinging door when it came to pass protection. I am watching for the Bengals to sign Jet McKinnon as a package deal because he did a lot of chip blocking to cover for Brown's misses.
Leon Searcy was pretty much the guy covering for Brown in the local sports discussion I heard on their noon time show. Sounded like he was making reasons/excuses.
I will give one of their guys some credit....he did say that OBJ was a decent LT but had some shortcomings.
Thanks for reminding me of Cam Erving/Mike Remmers.....if those guys were still around Mahomes might be spending more time on the IR list. [Reply]
This is a prime example of sacks being a QB stat. Orlando Brown gives up pressure almost immediately, but Mahomes is able to neutralize it and pick up a big chunk play anyway. pic.twitter.com/vqRVFZ0TC5
This is a prime example of sacks being a QB stat. Orlando Brown gives up pressure almost immediately, but Mahomes is able to neutralize it and pick up a big chunk play anyway. pic.twitter.com/vqRVFZ0TC5
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
They obviously didn't actually watch his tape. And I'm not saying OBJ was trash, because I still remember Cam Erving/Remmers quite clearly. Those guys were trash.
But OBJ isn't elite by any stretch. At best he's better than average, and that's it. At least in pass-pro. His strength or wheelhouse, is as a run-blocker.
EDIT: forgot just how many pressures he gave up, I know, how could i? He's well below average as a pass-pro OT. He's just not Cam bad.
The thing Bengos fans should ask themselves is, if OBJ is a great tackle why’s he 26 years old and on his third team?
Great tackles don’t hit the open market, and they don’t change teams with a lot of capital moving in exchange.
They definitely don’t see a team release them outright after a SB season [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mosbonian:
It was interesting to hear the local sports talk shows talking about the Taylor vs. Brown contracts. One of the local guys couldn't believe that KC would let Brown go and pay more for Taylor than Brown got in the Cincy deal.
And they were making him out to be this great Left Tackle that was Mahomes best protector.
Some of the local chat seemed more about frustration in losing Taylor with that leaving them Walker Little and Cam Robinson (who has had some injury issues)
The local sports guys rarely have any deep knowledge of any player not on the home team. [Reply]
Bengals have a good deal. They have a guy cheaper (right now) than ours with a proven floor at LT, which ours doesn't have. I know a lot of people here didn't rate OBJ, me too at times, but it's silly suggesting we wouldn't have taken the OBJ deal over the JT one imo. However...we'll see what it ultimately costs them. Brown wanted more of it guaranteed early. What's the chance he asks for an extension and a payrise before he gets to those leaner final years? I don't know if Taylor ends up being a better LT, there's massive over confidence on that imo, but I do think there's a very good chance he ends up being cheaper. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JPH83:
Bengals have a good deal. They have a guy cheaper (right now) than ours with a proven floor at LT, which ours doesn't have. I know a lot of people here didn't rate OBJ, me too at times, but it's silly suggesting we wouldn't have taken the OBJ deal over the JT one imo. However...we'll see what it ultimately costs them. Brown wanted more of it guaranteed early. What's the chance he asks for an extension and a payrise before he gets to those leaner final years? I don't know if Taylor ends up being a better LT, there's massive over confidence on that imo, but I do think there's a very good chance he ends up being cheaper.
If Taylor ends up being cheaper its because Brown ended up being better. The chances of either one of these guys seeing the final year on their deal is slim and Taylor is more expensive out of the chute. [Reply]