Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
I think argument is more:
LeBron is the GOAT because he’s elevated teams with trash supporting casts and won titles on teams with legit supporting casts.
Brady is not the GOAT, because he’s benefitted from being a part of the greatest football system in the history of the world and other QBs would have similar success if they were drafted into the same situation. Brady is still great but benefits greats from the coach, front office, and machine that the Patriots are.
KCC feel free to correct what I might have missed. Not saying I agree 100%, but I think that’s his argument.
The only thing consistent is that you consistently make excuses for Lebron’s failures while trying to downplay MJ and Brady’s greatness by making excuses for them.
It’s hilarious how you will pick them apart but won’t acknowledge the fact that Lebron played in a god awful conference for almost a decade. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
His all-time peak too. LeBron is only underrated specifically because of his rings (and not having more due to having scrubs for teammates for the majority of his career).
Brady is overrated specifically because of his rings (which can be largely attributed to the incredible strength of his organization/coach).
The positions are consistent.
Brady is the unequivocal goat. It's not even an argument anymore. [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
I think argument is more:
LeBron is the GOAT because he’s elevated teams with trash supporting casts and won titles on teams with legit supporting casts.
Brady is not the GOAT, because he’s benefitted from being a part of the greatest football system in the history of the world and other QBs would have similar success if they were drafted into the same situation. Brady is still great but benefits greats from the coach, front office, and machine that the Patriots are.
KCC feel free to correct what I might have missed. Not saying I agree 100%, but I think that’s his argument.
Other teams have copied Pats system and had 0 success. BB is a great coach but he isn't out there making passes, audibles, using footwork to avoid sacks, making clutch throws, eating a ridiculous diet so he can keep play in his 40s etc...
Every QB is part of a system btw. You think a HC is going to put Vick or Mahomes in the same system as Peyton or Brady? **** out of here w that bullshit argument.
Also you can't call a player the GOAT who has LeBrons finals record and constantly leaves team in a horrible position when he leaves the organization. That's just facts.
Originally Posted by Sorry:
Brady is the unequivocal goat. It's not even an argument anymore.
The only people who say he isn't are haters for the most part or ppl like KC Connection who claim to be a Raptors fan yet 90% of his NBA posts are about LeBron. [Reply]
