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Nzoner's Game Room>Frank Clark fucking sucks
RealSNR 02:33 PM 09-15-2019
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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DJ's left nut 09:29 AM 10-14-2019
Originally Posted by Showtime:
Spags is using him wrong. In Seattle they have a attacking D he looked like a stud. Some reason Spags isnít attacking for some reason.
Because when Clark attacks he gets thrown aside by TEs.

Seriously - watch what happens when Clark is trying to be aggressive off the edge - he's completely ineffective.

Spags is not the reason Clark is sucking. He's trying to work around Clark's suck at this point. You can't keep sending him charging upfield when he's not getting there at all; you're effectively playing 10 v 11 at that point. Spags (who is a bad DC, mind you) is trying to do anything he can to coax something out of this slug.
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RunKC 09:33 AM 10-14-2019
He tore ligaments in both elbows and has broken bones in his hands and never got them fixed guys.

That is why he isn’t winning 1X1.

He’s injured
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Sassy Snatch 09:35 AM 10-14-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He tore ligaments in both elbows and has broken bones in his hands and never got them fixed guys.

That is why he isn’t winning 1X1.

He’s injured
Then fire the guy who invested 105 million + a first + a second.
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PHOG 09:37 AM 10-14-2019
Don't they have trades contingent upon being able to pass physicals? Who blew the physical? Our wholly competent medical staff? :-)
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DJ's left nut 09:40 AM 10-14-2019
Jesus. Christ.

Clark's 2021 base salary fully guarantees in March of 2020. And his 2020 base is already fully guaranteed.

So fucking Veach, in his infinite wisdom, essentially made it impossible to even June 1 cut his ass after the 2020 season because his 2021 salary guarantees BEFORE the 2020 season.

Motherfuckingshit is Brett Veach retarded. Just an absolute goddamn idiot.

Somebody please tell me more about what an idiot asshole I am for comparing this fucking mouth-breathing shitstain to Ryan Grigson. How!?!?!?! How in the blue fuck did Frank Clark manage to get this contract? In what goddamn world was he EVER worth this much money? Especially when you had to !@#$ get fisted to get him on your roster.

Brett Veach, you are a piece of shit, man. I mean christ alive, is there a single brokedick in this league you won't fucking overpay for?

Fuck me that contract is awful. Just absolutely !@#$ing awful.
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Mecca 09:41 AM 10-14-2019
Veach would have traded 2 1's for Albert Haynesworth.
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chiefzilla1501 09:42 AM 10-14-2019
Originally Posted by scho63:
Did we get a warranty with Clark? Apparently not :-)

We bought a used car without doing a CARFAX.

Veach so far looks pretty poor in all his decisions if they are his. His draft picks, his trades and pretty much everything outside of Mahomes. :-)
It was a panic move because we couldn't land Patrick Peterson.
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KC Hawks 09:44 AM 10-14-2019
"Veach got his NFL start in Philadelphia, where he learned from then-general manager Tom Heckert. Veach also credits ex-Colts general manager Ryan Grigson, who was the Eagles’ director of college scouting, for teaching him to care about road scouts, who work long, lonely hours and need a good boss to keep their morale high."

Veach learning from the best.
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Sassy Snatch 09:45 AM 10-14-2019
Originally Posted by KC Hawks:
"Veach got his NFL start in Philadelphia, where he learned from then-general manager Tom Heckert. Veach also credits ex-Colts general manager Ryan Grigson, who was the Eagles’ director of college scouting, for teaching him to care about road scouts, who work long, lonely hours and need a good boss to keep their morale high."

Veach learning from the best.
:-)
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DJ's left nut 09:47 AM 10-14-2019
Seriously - the only way out of this deal, because of the ungodly stupidity of guaranteeing that 2021 salary before the 2020 season, is to trade him.

So fellas - we're 6 games into the 2019 NFL season. 6 games post Veach's decision to give a 1st and a 2nd round pick for this guy and then EXTEND him.

What's the least the Chiefs would have to include in a package to move him? They couldn't trade him for a 7th right now - nobody would want his ass contract clogging their cap. But if they included a 4th rounder with Clark for a conditional 7th do you think we could get him traded? Sure, we'd have to eat the signing bonus but we could be rid of the massive guaranteed base salaries in 2020 and 2021. We have the cap space to eat the bonus right now anyway due.

Just !@#$ing do it. Get rid of this guy. All we're doing is hoping at this point. Call the draft picks sunk costs, give Veach the job of digging his own grave, get Clark the !@#$ off this roster then mercy-kill Veach, toss him in the hole and throw some dirt on it.

And hope we can get a real GM in here. I'm just dumbfounded that Veach effectively guaranteed that 3rd year. For a dude who's probably damaged goods. What an idiot. What an absolute idiot.
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ShowtimeSBMVP 09:48 AM 10-14-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Seriously - the only way out of this deal, because of the ungodly stupidity of guaranteeing that 2021 salary before the 2020 season, is to trade him.

So fellas - we're 6 games into the 2019 NFL season. 6 games post Veach's decision to give a 1st and a 2nd round pick for this guy and then EXTEND him.

What's the least the Chiefs would have to include in a package to move him? They couldn't trade him for a 7th right now - nobody would want his ass contract clogging their cap. But if they included a 4th rounder with Clark for a conditional 7th do you think we could get him traded? Sure, we'd have to eat the signing bonus but we could be rid of the massive guaranteed base salaries in 2020 and 2021. We have the cap space to eat the bonus right now anyway due.

Just !@#$ing do it. Get rid of this guy. All we're doing is hoping at this point. Call the draft picks sunk costs, give Veach the job of digging his own grave, get Clark the !@#$ off this roster then mercy-kill Veach, toss him in the hole and throw some dirt on it.

And hope we can get a real GM in here. I'm just dumbfounded that Veach effectively guaranteed that 3rd year. For a dude who's probably damaged goods. What an idiot. What an absolute idiot.

Youíre crazy if you think Veach really has final say on moves. Heís a puppet GM
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RunKC 09:49 AM 10-14-2019
I thought that I liked Brett Veach’s aggressiveness due to Howie Roseman doing the same thing in Philly. Turns out that gave each guy one shot.

Howie was lucky as hell that Foles won him his shot. Veach didn’t get his bc of Dee fucking Ford.

Now look at both teams? They’re declining bc of aggressive stupidity.

Chris Ballard’s way of thinking is what we need.
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Mecca 09:50 AM 10-14-2019
Originally Posted by KC Hawks:
"Veach got his NFL start in Philadelphia, where he learned from then-general manager Tom Heckert. Veach also credits ex-Colts general manager Ryan Grigson, who was the Eaglesí director of college scouting, for teaching him to care about road scouts, who work long, lonely hours and need a good boss to keep their morale high."

Veach learning from the best.
Wow, he really is Ryan Grigson 2.0
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pugsnotdrugs19 09:51 AM 10-14-2019
Andy signs off on all of this, if not making the major decisions.

He’s why you have Mahomes. He’s why you have Clark. The primary reason anyways.
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RunKC 09:53 AM 10-14-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Seriously - the only way out of this deal, because of the ungodly stupidity of guaranteeing that 2021 salary before the 2020 season, is to trade him.

So fellas - we're 6 games into the 2019 NFL season. 6 games post Veach's decision to give a 1st and a 2nd round pick for this guy and then EXTEND him.

What's the least the Chiefs would have to include in a package to move him? They couldn't trade him for a 7th right now - nobody would want his ass contract clogging their cap. But if they included a 4th rounder with Clark for a conditional 7th do you think we could get him traded? Sure, we'd have to eat the signing bonus but we could be rid of the massive guaranteed base salaries in 2020 and 2021. We have the cap space to eat the bonus right now anyway due.

Just !@#$ing do it. Get rid of this guy. All we're doing is hoping at this point. Call the draft picks sunk costs, give Veach the job of digging his own grave, get Clark the !@#$ off this roster then mercy-kill Veach, toss him in the hole and throw some dirt on it.

And hope we can get a real GM in here. I'm just dumbfounded that Veach effectively guaranteed that 3rd year. For a dude who's probably damaged goods. What an idiot. What an absolute idiot.
Only way out is through cheap talent. The draft will make this all go away if executed properly.
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