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ROYC75 01:21 PM 03-01-2023
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Story by Andrew Gould




The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Do we want a high priced prima donna?
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Chris Meck 09:23 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
With D Hop- the Chiefs could 3 peat. Be the best team in NFL history. Yep, that is worth a 3rd rounder. :-)
Without DHop, but with Chris Jones, Sneed, a quality LT, a quality RT, Nick Bolton, and a GM who drafts well-The Chiefs could 3 peat.

You sign Dhop, you probably have to cut MVS, and you're back to hero ball. Only not as good, because Hopkins is no Tyreek Hill.

This whole thought process is dumb.

This offense was BETTER with a more diverse but less individually great corps of weapons. It's like you guys just didn't notice.
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Reerun_KC 09:25 PM 03-01-2023
You have Mahomes chiefs fans.

Alex smith isn’t your QB and Marty isn’t walking though the door to coach.

Stop acting so desperate.

Fuck no to this aging scrub.
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Skyy God 09:28 PM 03-01-2023
You fuckers are impossibly dumb.
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Chris Meck 09:29 PM 03-01-2023
Guys...it's literally like this.

You sign Hopkins, you have to let other talented players go. You create holes. We don't need to spend that kind of money at WR, we just had the #1 offense in football.

You want to spend more money on the offense? Well, I for one would prefer to see a healthy Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. We haven't seen that in awhile. Give me better OT play and we'll roll with the receivers we've got. And we'll DRAFT and DEVELOP our stars instead of overpaying for other teams' cast-offs.
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Reerun_KC 09:30 PM 03-01-2023
This thread proves chiefs fans Do NOT appreciate Mahomes.

90s fucking ruined this fanbase.
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Halfcan 09:33 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Without DHop, but with Chris Jones, Sneed, a quality LT, a quality RT, Nick Bolton, and a GM who drafts well-The Chiefs could 3 peat.

You sign Dhop, you probably have to cut MVS, and you're back to hero ball. Only not as good, because Hopkins is no Tyreek Hill.

This whole thought process is dumb.

This offense was BETTER with a more diverse but less individually great corps of weapons. It's like you guys just didn't notice.
I noticed us down to guys like Marcus Kemp in the playoffs. It is amazing that we won. Mahomes needs weapons. Even Superman has the Justice League to have his back.
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Reerun_KC 09:34 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
I noticed us down to guys like Marcus Kemp in the playoffs. It is amazing that we won. Mahomes needs weapons. Even Superman has the Justice League to have his back.
Difference between weapons and trading your future for aging vets because the 90s said we should.
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Rainbarrel 09:34 PM 03-01-2023
Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson
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Reerun_KC 09:35 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Rainbarrel:
Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson
Thank you.
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ForeverIowan 09:35 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by DRM08:
To quote the arrogant Joe Burrow, “The window is Patrick Mahomes’ entire career.” Veach needs to build a balanced roster and don’t throw away the future in hopes of short-term gain, especially with expensive veterans who might not even stay healthy.
DHop is already under contract until 2024. Why not take the short-term gain WITHOUT hamstringing the future cap? Both things can be possible. Veach is a cap wizard. If he thinks he can fit DHops contract in the cap for 2023 and 2024 without sacrificing future in-house free agents (Sneed, Bolton, Humphrey, etc...) go for it. Give up a 2ndish rounder to maximize Mahomes and Reid chances for rings #3 and #4.
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Halfcan 09:36 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC:
You have Mahomes chiefs fans.

Alex smith isn’t your QB and Marty isn’t walking though the door to coach.

Stop acting so desperate.

**** no to this aging scrub.
D Hop is a scrub?

He looked pretty dang good last year. Better than any receiver we had. You can double Kelce or D Hop, but not both.
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Reerun_KC 09:39 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
D Hop is a scrub?

He looked pretty dang good last year. Better than any receiver we had. You can double Kelce or D Hop, but not both.
At what cost vs drafting players on rookie contracts.

Who says you can’t get a player that’s better?
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ForeverIowan 09:42 PM 03-01-2023
I cant get Mahomes' SB postgame presser comments and what he said at the parade out of my head. "I like our chances again next year". Nothing goes down in that organization that Mahomes doesnt know about. I think Mahomes knows Veach and that front office are in position to make some power moves this offseason. Im not saying DHop is one of those dominoes but would not at all be surprised of it was.
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UChieffyBugger 09:43 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
You have a GM that just landed serious plus contributions from 7 rookies. We have TWELVE picks in this draft.

The answer is not to go spend #20m on an over 30 WR.

The difference Hopkins makes is not worth that chunk of change.
We struck lightening in a bottle with winning this championship with so many rookies tbh. And realistically our roster was not better than many teams in this league so I think expecting to be able to pull that off again consistently is naive. Pat won his first SB with Tyreek and Watkins at wideout and an experienced defense..so let's not act like that way isn't a good path to take too. When there's a chance to grab a hall of fame guy you have to seriously consider it imo.
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Reerun_KC 09:45 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
We struck lightening in a bottle with winning this championship with so many rookies tbh. And realistically our roster was not better than many teams in this league so I think expecting to be able to pull that off again consistently is naive. Pat won his first SB with Tyreek and Watkins at wideout and an experienced defense..so let's not act like that way isn't a good path to take too. When there's a chance to grab a hall of fame guy you have to seriously consider it imo.

He’s past his prime. Stop living in the past.

Just ducking quit.

Again. Another poster not appreciating Mahomes.
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