Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk:
I’ve loved working from home.
I don’t sit in traffic.
More time with the family.
Can for a run and get all sweaty during my lunch break and not have to worry about stinking out my cowowrkers.
Microsoft teams is great.
Eating much better....like I’m eating out maybe once a month (curbside to go).
...that chatter with our leadership group is that once things get back to “normal” we will have the option to continue to work from home. I’m hoping that’s the case. I will probably end up working 3-4 days from home and just head into the office for client meetings or project coordination.
Pretty much this, minus the run. Can't do much running while under a major heat wave going on in the KC area on my lunch break.
I get a sinus infection at the same time my coworkers get COVID.
And to elaborate, my Brother In Law has been fighting sinus infections for the last month from wearing a mask 8-10 hours a day. I know you wear one a lot throughout the day. Again, it can be other things and I hope it is not only so you don't have Covid but so I can run a big I told you so in your face. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan:
Better to have those people be tested and be wrong than to assume its not COVID and be wrong.
That wasn't even the point I was making. I think they should have tested. My point was you can still get sick from other shit that has signs or similarities to Covid and not have Covid. We had fevers, coughs, congestion, fatigue and what not long before Covid hit the scene. [Reply]
Originally Posted by lewdog:
I put wasabi paste on my tongue and can't taste a thing.
This shit is ****ing wack!
When I was getting radiation to my head and neck....I couldnt tell the difference between sand, salt, sugar, dirt, flour if one were to place it in my mouth. I once chewed a handful of cocktail peanuts for 4 minutes and then exhaled pure peanut dust in the air because I had zero saliva in my mouth. Funny shit for sure......Welcome to the twilight zone.... Bottom line is we play the cards we are dealt right? Kick ass no matter what.....and blame nobody.....just live [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I generally agree with you, but thus far the economy has outperformed expectations every month after the initial hit. Time will tell how it plays out in the end, but it still wouldn't surprise me to see things come back more than everyone expects.
I hope you are right but I would be surprised. There are a lot of dominoes to fall.
Government support running out. People run out of savings and max out debt.
An eviction tsunami is coming. Landlord and property owners and eventually banks are going to get hit. States are going to struggle with their budgets.
Without a vaccine the economy is going to be depressed even if everything is nominally opened up.
Originally Posted by lewdog:
I put wasabi paste on my tongue and can't taste a thing.
This shit is fucking wack!
Think of the bright side: you can live on a diet of chicken breast and mixed greens and take advantage of the extra calorie burn from the inevitable fever....use this thing to make you a ripped MFer. It'll be like running phentermine + DNP! [Reply]
Had our first dept resignation to focus on homeschooling. We're all working from home for the rest of the year but she felt it was too much to juggle with 2 kids. [Reply]
Originally Posted by :
I was able to identify 1,020 cases from 64 jurisdictions and 14 deaths today.
The DHSS report from today showed an increase of over 900 cases
I did get some information passed along from a couple of independent contacts in the state, which indicates that the state is “multiple days behind in entry of positive COVID reports and has a backlog of more than 7,000 reports that need to be entered”. They note that some may be duplicate reports, and include all testing methods. It is unclear how this backlog will directly affect our numbers of positive cases. The DHSS, like virtually every other public health organization right now, is overwhelmed and understaffed. It was this way before we had a global pandemic, too.
[Deaths]
- Bollinger County has added their first COVID-19 related death, per the DHSS report.
- KCMO added 3 deaths today.
- Jackson County and St. Louis City each added 2 deaths today.
- Boone, Butler, Pettis, St. Charles, and St. Louis Counties, as well as the City of Joplin have each added 1 death, either today or yesterday.
[Cases]
- Christian County has now added 17 and 18 of their 110 cases in just two days.
- Cole County is up to 151 cases today from my number of 111 yesterday. I’m not sure how long I may have missed some of these cases, if I actually did miss them.
- I didn’t see any updates from Cape Girardeau County or from Johnson County, both of which are very much out of character.
- Chariton and Maries Counties are both down one case, per the DHSS report.
Originally Posted by petegz28:
That wasn't even the point I was making. I think they should have tested. My point was you can still get sick from other shit that has signs or similarities to Covid and not have Covid. We had fevers, coughs, congestion, fatigue and what not long before Covid hit the scene.
You can but Arizona isn’t dealing with a sinus infection pandemic right now and with his recent contact to known positive with 0 Hx of sinus issues or allergies most people with any medical sense would presume covid till proven otherwise . [Reply]
Originally Posted by Monticore:
You can but Arizona isn’t dealing with a sinus infection pandemic right now and with his recent contact to known positive with 0 Hx of sinus issues or allergies most people with any medical sense would presume covid till proven otherwise .
Oh :-). People can get a sinus infection any time. It doesn't have to be a wide spread thing. And no one ever said it wasn't Covid. JFC. I mean allergies can cause a sinus infection for that matter. Just pipe the fuck down. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Oh :-). People can get a sinus infection any time. It doesn't have to be a wide spread thing. And no one ever said it wasn't Covid. JFC. I mean allergies can cause a sinus infection for that matter. Just pipe the **** down.
I am not saying it isn't but if you do the math and I am sure the doctor that saw him did, sinus infection should not the first guess. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Oh :-). People can get a sinus infection any time. It doesn't have to be a wide spread thing. And no one ever said it wasn't Covid. JFC. I mean allergies can cause a sinus infection for that matter. Just pipe the fuck down.
FYI I’m not freaking out and I think my wife has it now too. The point is that the most logical thing I have IS COVID given my state, job and all the staff testing positive around me all within 7 days of each other. I’m not sure who would think otherwise. [Reply]
Currently, Arizona’s largest testing lab, Sonora Quest, which handles 80% of the state’s Covid-19 tests, is receiving 14,000 a day but processing only 10,000, said Chief Executive David Dexter. Results can take up to 11 days, the company said. [Reply]
