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oldman 05:08 AM 10-03-2022
OL (minus Brown) were money last night and it showed with CEH's 92 on the ground and Pacheco adding another 63. Only 1 trick play was needed to score and that was due to the interior 3 owning the Bucs line. A little Martyball is a good thing.

The zebras let the players determine the outcome of the game. We got away with a couple. Clark was clearly in the neutral zone when the Bucs were called for too many guys on the field and Jones might have been called for roughing the passer. Tommyboy was chirping all night long but didn't get a favor. Did anyone notice if he committed battery on a defenseless Ipad?

CEH's TD reception will surely make the highlight reels this week. Just Patrick being Patrick.

The only thing I can bitch about was the unnecessary INT in the 4th. It was 3rd and 5 and PMII either missed or ignored a wide open McKinnon in the left flat. That would have kept the drive alive and we wouldn't have had to listen to Collinsworth yapping about Brady.
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htismaqe 10:19 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by RubberSponge:
I think you are thinking of the catch that MVS had hit him the numbers at the 5 with 10:55 left in the 4th. Other than that I don't remember Andy being pissed any other time last night.
It hit him in the numbers and he had a defender draped all over his back. Let's not leave out that part. It's not like he was wide open streaking down the sideline and let it go through his hands.
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VAChief 10:20 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by Wallcrawler:
The Hardman miss is concerning. To me, this is such a lack of faith in Hardman to run the correct route and be where he's supposed to be, that pre-snap, Mahomes has already decided he's not getting the ball.

Hardman has been in this system way too long to be this bad at the receiver position. The guy should have been a lock for WR 1 with that speed, and time in the system.

Still, Mahomes needs to read the entire field, just for the simple fact that even a broken clock is right twice a day, and Hardman was hilariously wide open for a td.
I don't think he intentionally overlooked him, he wanted something deep and that was Watson. That was broken coverage, I think he assumed Hardman would draw safety back up coverage and Watson would be one on one.

It is an area Mahomes needs to keep maturing. He generally does scan the field, he just didn't do it there.
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Abba-Dabba 10:20 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It hit him in the numbers and he had a defender draped all over his back. Let's not leave out that part. It's not like he was wide open streaking down the sideline and let it go through his hands.
Just watched it again and that is not true.

The defender didn't even touch him till after the ball came off his hands.

Why does Kelce turn and yell at him?
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redfan 10:21 AM 10-03-2022
Can't believe the Chiefs won without Willie Gay and McDuffie.
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VAChief 10:23 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It hit him in the numbers and he had a defender draped all over his back. Let's not leave out that part. It's not like he was wide open streaking down the sideline and let it go through his hands.
It is the kind of catch your starters should bring in, not that difficult, he was falling backwards, but it was straight at him, hit him in the hands and it looked like he was wearing pots and pans for hands. Even good ones drop them once in awhile (Kelce dropped one in his hands last week), but that one was definitely a clunker.
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htismaqe 10:25 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by RubberSponge:
Just watched it again and that is not true.

The defender didn't even touch him till after the ball came off his hands.

Why does Kelce turn and yell at him?
Because he dropped the ball.

Why are you so fixated on one fucking drop?
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htismaqe 10:26 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by VAChief:
It is the kind of catch your starters should bring in, not that difficult, he was falling backwards, but it was straight at him, hit him in the hands and it looked like he was wearing pots and pans for hands. Even good ones drop them once in awhile (Kelce dropped one in his hands last week), but that one was definitely a clunker.
Yeah, he had a bad drop.

He also had 3 really nice receptions and contributed to the best offensive performance of the season.

Some people are just never fucking happy.
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chiefforlife 10:32 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by notorious:
JJSS dropping a perfectly thrown pass in the 4th quarter pissed me and Andy off pretty bad.
I noticed that as well. Very rare that you see Andy visibly upset with a player.

He was clearly pissed on that one.
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Abba-Dabba 11:20 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Because he dropped the ball.

Why are you so fixated on one fucking drop?
That's not Kelce's character towards a teammate. That was some built up frustration.

I'm not fixated on it. I just said he needs to clean it up and make those catches. Then the OMGGERD crowd comes out and pounces like I have stabbed some one they personally know.
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htismaqe 11:22 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by RubberSponge:
Then the OMGGERD crowd comes out and pounces like I have stabbed some one they personally know.
Because it's an extremely odd time to shit on a guy that made a couple of big plays last night against the consensus #1 defense in the NFL.

It absolutely appears like you went looking for a reason to complain about something, anything.
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Abba-Dabba 11:37 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by chiefforlife:
I noticed that as well. Very rare that you see Andy visibly upset with a player.

He was clearly pissed on that one.
Again, it was the MVS drop at the 5 that he was pissed about. It came at 10:51 in the 4th quarter on a 3rd and 2. It would have been a 1st and goal at the 5. It resulted in a FG.

Not Juju. Juju was targeted once in the 4th and it resulted in Mahomes instead throwing into coverage for the INT while missing McKinnon for an easy 1st down. That happened at 4:52 in the 4th. He even looked at McKinnon and seen he was open. He was playing hero ball. It's okay though. We still won.
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Abba-Dabba 11:38 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Because it's an extremely odd time to shit on a guy that made a couple of big plays last night against the consensus #1 defense in the NFL.

It absolutely appears like you went looking for a reason to complain about something, anything.
It's not shitting on a guy to say he needs to clean it up in those critical situations.

You're taking this way way too personally.
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RaidersOftheCellar 11:39 AM 10-03-2022
Amazing how much one game changes the perception of the entire organization.

Before the Colts game, everybody's feeling good. After losing a game due to ST and uncommon mistakes, the roster suddenly became weak and full of holes. Rebuilding year and they'll be lucky to crack 20 points the rest of the year. Fast forward another week and the roster is perfect again. :-)
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htismaqe 11:40 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by RubberSponge:
It's not shitting on a guy to say he needs to clean it up in those critical situations.

You're taking this way way too personally.
It isn't personal at all, at least not for me. Sure looks like it might be for you, though.
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Abba-Dabba 11:42 AM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It isn't personal at all, at least not for me. Sure looks like it might be for you, though.
No, not at all.

I don't seem to be the one upset about it.
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