Originally Posted by Deberg_1990:
This is pretty funny. For those of you that remember 'The Ben Still Show' and that era. Stiller really nails the James Hetfield of that time.
Instrumentally, they're both dope and almost interchangeable. Both are rich in sinister riffs that make you feel like a demon-summoning bad ass that sets cars ablaze with your sheer presence.
The difference to me is in the frontman, and i just think Hetfield is a superior front man to Mustaine.
They both have voices that suit the genre, i just prefer Hetfield's sound.
If both bands were derived from the pits of hell, Mustaine would be an Imp-demon and Hetfield would be a Warlord. That's how they sound to me lol.
Also, For Whom The Bell Tolls and Creeping Death are two of the best Metal songs ever made imo. Those songs ooze bad-assness and make me feel like i can shoot fireballs out of my eyes.
The first 1.5mins of For Whom the Bell Tolls is pretty much the coolest first 1.5min of any song ever, in the history of ever songs. Ever. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
As far as this debate goes, here's my 2cents:
Instrumentally, they're both dope and almost interchangeable. Both are rich in sinister riffs that make you feel like a demon-summoning bad ass that sets cars ablaze with your sheer presence.
The difference to me is in the frontman, and i just think Hetfield is a superior front man to Mustaine.
They both have voices that suit the genre, i just prefer Hetfield's sound.
If both bands were derived from the pits of hell, Mustaine would be an Imp-demon and Hetfield would be a Warlord. That's how they sound to me lol.
Sorry. I just can't agree with this bolded part at all.
Megadeth is a symphony and Metallica is a garage band when it comes to instrumentation.
As a guitarist, I can honestly say the bands haven't been even remotely similar in 30 years. When Marty joined Megadeth and Metallica went off doing pseudo-grunge, they went in completely different directions. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Sorry. I just can't agree with this bolded part at all.
Megadeth is a symphony and Metallica is a garage band when it comes to instrumentation.
As a guitarist, I can honestly say the bands haven't been even remotely similar in 30 years. When Marty joined Megadeth and Metallica went off doing pseudo-grunge, they went in completely different directions.
What do you think of Gojira? They're currently at the top of my go-to list for metal. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Sorry. I just can't agree with this bolded part at all.
Megadeth is a symphony and Metallica is a garage band when it comes to instrumentation.
As a guitarist, I can honestly say the bands haven't been even remotely similar in 30 years. When Marty joined Megadeth and Metallica went off doing pseudo-grunge, they went in completely different directions.
Yeah i figured this response was coming. I don't get that technical with it nor am i going to pretend like i know either band's catalogs well enough to comment on it.
Music is an emotional experience for me. Like ive always said i need to be able to either:
Drive to it.
Play to it.
Fuck to it.
Smoke to it.
Chill to it.
If i can't do those things with it then it doesn't qualify.
I categorize these instrumentations as interchangeable to me because they both give the same vibes in the same sort of way. They both invoke the same emotion and the same imagery. To me at least. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Yeah i figured this response was coming. I don't get that technical with it nor am i going to pretend like i know either band's catalogs well enough to comment on it.
Music is an emotional experience for me. Like ive always said i need to be able to either:
Drive to it.
Play to it.
Fuck to it.
Smoke to it.
Chill to it.
If i can't do those things with it then it doesn't qualify.
I categorize these instrumentations as interchangeable to me because they both give the same vibes in the same sort of way. They both invoke the same emotion and the same imagery. To me at least.
Hmmm...let me see if I can frame it in your terms.
First I should note that music is an emotional experience for me too. But it's also an intellectual experience. If I want to listen to dark, untechnical sludge, I go listen to Sunn O or something. If I want to listen to something more musically stimulating, I might find some power metal like Narnia. I'm not strictly a technique snob, I do listen to a lot of dirt.
For me, Metallica operates in an in-between area that is neither emotionally nor intellectually stimulating enough to keep my interest.
By your criteria, I can drive, smoke, and chill to Metallica pre-AJFA. After that, I'd rather listen to fingernails on a chalkboard, especially when I smoke. There's no "vibe" to it. It sounds to me like a band that decided to change their entire persona to be more popular. Whereas, Megadeth actually took on a guitar virtuoso to move them in a more musically satisfying direction. Sometimes when I'm in that mood, I want to here complexity and nuance that a more dynamic music brings.
And finally, who fucks to Metallica or Megadeth? Are you sleeping with 16 year olds? :-) [Reply]
Metallica/Megadeath qualify in the Drive-To/Play-To categories.
A song doesn't have to fit all the categories. It just needs to be useful in one.
My Spotify is a whirlwind of genres ranging from The Drifters all the way up to Migos and the latest from DJ Khaled and nearly every rock genre in between.
I'm more of a Punk guy than a Speed Metal guy, but my metal playlist is often used too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Megadeth is a symphony and Metallica is a garage band when it comes to instrumentation.
Absolutely agree 100%. But musicians hear and feel things differently than non-musicians. A high level of musicianship appeals to me far more than a low or much lower level of musicianship, but it can go both ways.
Over-the-top playing only appeals to me so much because it just becomes noise after a while. Simpler chord progressions and playing, as long as its not 12 year old garage band level, is enjoyable for capturing that simplicity and adding a layer of emotion that's not reachable when playing a million notes.
When I hear Metallica at their best, I hear pure, unadulterated anxiety, anger and aggression. They have a way of capturing those emotions and putting them in a 4 to 7 minute piece of music that's relatable and fungible.
When I hear Megadeth at their best, I hear nearly unparalleled musicianship, amazing note choices by Marty Friedman, excellent production and Mustaine's never ending conquest to be the best thrash band in the world, almost to the point where he's screaming "LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!".
To me, they're both awesome and amazing bands but very, very different. I could never pick one over the other, except when it comes to my mood. Fortunately, both exist. [Reply]