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Donger 08:40 AM 04-23-2007
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=afOlUzd30YOo

Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

Spoiler!

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scho63 02:17 PM 09-11-2023
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
I don't think they're a farce, but they aren't a long term solution either.

I agree that hydrogen is the only possible green solution right now.
Unless all EV's get powered by a electric grid via nuclear, they are. They take non-green energy to power them.
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Eureka 02:50 PM 09-11-2023
Paid $5.59 while on a road trip this weekend.
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AdolfOliverBush 02:55 PM 09-11-2023
Originally Posted by scho63:
Unless all EV's get powered by a electric grid via nuclear, they are. They take non-green energy to power them.
True, but it's much easier to control emissions at the source of electricity production, rather than trying to deal with emissions coming from every vehicle on the road.
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scho63 11:20 AM 09-13-2023
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
True, but it's much easier to control emissions at the source of electricity production, rather than trying to deal with emissions coming from every vehicle on the road.
Fair point :-)
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TLO 05:15 PM 09-13-2023
1963chief if you see this message please post in the thread dedicated to you
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Megatron96 08:20 PM 09-13-2023
$4.75 87 octane
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BlackHelicopters 08:27 PM 09-13-2023
3.89 in JoMo today.
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displacedinMN 08:29 PM 09-13-2023
Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters:
3.89 in JoMo today.
back down to 3.89 here
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 08:33 PM 09-13-2023
$4.80 here in Vegas
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Donger 08:18 AM 09-14-2023
Crude is now over $90/barrel.
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notorious 09-14-2023, 08:20 AM
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Bwana 08:22 AM 09-14-2023
It's starting to get a little western again, at the pump.
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seamonster 11:10 AM 09-14-2023
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
True, but it's much easier to control emissions at the source of electricity production, rather than trying to deal with emissions coming from every vehicle on the road.

The entire idea is probably control...

California told people to stop plugging in their EV's.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/u...-charging.html

The entire thing is a joke. Chemically gasoline has more power than these ancient battery technologies and it's probably safer and isn't as bad for the environment as strip mining for lithium.
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Bowser 12:57 PM 09-14-2023
Gas jumped .20 overnight north of the river in KC. 3.89/gal now
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AdolfOliverBush 01:02 PM 09-14-2023
Originally Posted by seamonster:
The entire idea is probably control...

California told people to stop plugging in their EV's.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/u...-charging.html

The entire thing is a joke. Chemically gasoline has more power than these ancient battery technologies and it's probably safer and isn't as bad for the environment as strip mining for lithium.
If the goal was control EVs wouldn't be necessary, and right now we're all at the mercy of the petroleum industry, so we're already being controlled, more or less.
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DrunkBassGuitar 01:13 PM 09-14-2023
the emissions savings for EVs are drastically overstated. it's about the same as the difference between a compact car and an SUV. it's there but it's not as much as you would think

reducing battery size would probably help though, most people don't really need a battery with 300+ mile range. how often do you drive 300 or more miles in a day?
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