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Donger 08:40 AM 04-23-2007
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=afOlUzd30YOo

Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

Spoiler!

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KC native 11:01 AM 12-11-2015
Originally Posted by scho63:
Gasoline is already as low as $1.66 here in Virginia. It's going to crack that mark easily.

Oil now under $36 and the high yield bonds are about the implode. Things are about to get real bad in the markets.....:-)
High yield outside of the energy sector is fundamentally sound.
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scho63 11:05 AM 12-11-2015
Originally Posted by KC native:
High yield outside of the energy sector is fundamentally sound.
You better double check your sources, it's not
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KC native 01:52 PM 12-11-2015
Originally Posted by scho63:
You better double check your sources, it's not
Default rates are still below historical averages (as of 10/31 it was at 2.9%. The average is around 4%). If you back out the energy sector, they are significantly lower than average.

As of 10/31 (these won't have changed materially because they haven't been any significant bankruptcies since I got them),
Energy default rate was 5.3%
Exploration and Production was at 9%
Metals and Mining were at 9.5%
Coal was at 27%.
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Donger 04:14 PM 12-11-2015
$35.62. That's a 10% drop in one week.
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notorious 04:18 PM 12-11-2015
1.59/gallon today.

(fist pump)

These low prices are saving me around $500-700/month.

My Class-3 FFL dealer owns some oil wells and he was bitching about the prices and how it is hurting the economy.

My eyes rolled so hard I probably looked like a slot machine.
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scho63 04:37 PM 12-11-2015
Originally Posted by KC native:
Default rates are still below historical averages (as of 10/31 it was at 2.9%. The average is around 4%). If you back out the energy sector, they are significantly lower than average.

As of 10/31 (these won't have changed materially because they haven't been any significant bankruptcies since I got them),
Energy default rate was 5.3%
Exploration and Production was at 9%
Metals and Mining were at 9.5%
Coal was at 27%.
You are looking at the wrong data points. It's not about the current defaults, which are few, it's about the oncoming tsunami that is cresting and ready to break. The next 90-120 days in the high yield market are going to be brutally bad.
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KC native 10:56 AM 12-16-2015
Originally Posted by scho63:
You are looking at the wrong data points. It's not about the current defaults, which are few, it's about the oncoming tsunami that is cresting and ready to break. The next 90-120 days in the high yield market are going to be brutally bad.
There are no major defaults expected outside of energy.

Price action doesn't mean the sector is fundamentally challenged.
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scho63 10:03 AM 12-17-2015
Just popped under $35 a barrel - $20's something per barrel, here were come
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EyePod 10:24 AM 12-17-2015
Originally Posted by scho63:
Just popped under $35 a barrel - $20's something per barrel, here were come
Probably helped by the Congress voting to allow exporting of US oil again.
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Squalor2 07:42 PM 12-17-2015
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Getting a diesel feels dumber now
why?
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Donger 08:35 AM 12-21-2015
Gasoline is now $1.99 as a national average. Merry Christmas.
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KC native 03:55 PM 01-06-2016
Donger weeps
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Donger 05:17 PM 01-06-2016
Originally Posted by KC native:
Donger weeps
:-)

A good day for the little people. Actually, no it wasn't.
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scho63 01:12 PM 01-07-2016
Oil sliding once again-$20's just around the corner. Anything below $25 is the time to BUY, BUY, BUY
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KC native 01:27 PM 01-07-2016
Originally Posted by Donger:
:-)

A good day for the little people. Actually, no it wasn't.
Yea, financial markets haven't been good to anyone so far this year.
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