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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2022 Royals Season Repository Thread***
ChiefsCountry 11:07 AM 01-01-2022
For all things Royals in 2022. #3 minor league system according to Baseball America. The Bobby Witt era should begin this year. Will Salvy still be the homerun king? How does the glut of infield players work out? Will the young pitchers take the next step?

Free Agents/Trades Acquisitions
Zack Greinke, P
Amir Garrett, P
Taylor Clarke, P

Top 10 Prospects from Baseball America
1. Bobby Witt, SS
2. Asa Lacy, P
3. MJ Melendez, C
4. Nick Pratto, 1B
5. Jackson Kowar, P
6. Kyle Isabel, OF
7. Frank Mozzicato, P
8. Ben Kudrna, P
9. Jonathan Bowlan, P
10. Vinnie Pasquantino, 1B

Duncan's Top Royals Prospects
Spoiler!

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ChiefsCountry 10:40 AM 07-11-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Draft comes before the deadline, right? By a couple weeks - I think the draft is this week.

Is Anthopoulos still their GM? He's a crafty guy - my guess is that the trade isn't about the 'pick' itself but rather an attempt at boosting the Braves bonus pool. I wouldn't be surprised if they take someone cheap and signable with that pick because they're trying to bank bonus pool money to make an above slot offer to a pick elsewhere in the draft. You can usually sneak one of those higher risk picks into the 11th round if you play your cards right and have good intel from various 'advisors' on how much it will cost to buy a guy out of a college commitment.
The bonus money could be it. Passan said the Braves went from 19th in bonus pool to 9th.
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duncan_idaho 11:27 AM 07-11-2022
The Braves must have a signability guy they’re really sold on. Watch it be Sam Horn because wouldn’t that be perfect?

Waters is a super tools-driven prospect so I’m not surprised KC likes him. He’s just a year removed from being a top 50 prospect, to give an idea of how good those tools are.

Consistent concerns are about his ability to improve his approach. Considering KC’s recent developmental success with that, it’s a good shot to take.

If Zumwalt et al can help him as much as thy helped Melendez and Pratto, it’s a home run return.
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WhawhaWhat 11:44 AM 07-11-2022

Our pre-trade rankings updates for the Braves Top 30 was going to have Hoffman as the Braves' No. 10 prospect and Waters as the Braves' No. 15 prospect. https://t.co/eO5C5IfmmQ

— JJ Cooper (@jjcoop36) July 11, 2022

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KChiefs1 11:45 AM 07-11-2022
It’s the Royals so you know it’s going to be a shitty trade return.

Clean house Sherman!


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Nightfyre 11:59 AM 07-11-2022
I am cautiously optimistic about the return the Royals should get back for Beni. Seems like a strong market is setting up for him.
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TomBarndtsTwin 12:00 PM 07-11-2022
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Holy shit look at this lineup they are trotting out for Game 1 today
Interesting with Taylor DHing today. Just trying to give his legs a rest or a trade possibly coming soon? Especially considering the trade the Royals just made with the Braves.

On another note, so much for dealing Whit . . . . . .
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TomBarndtsTwin 12:02 PM 07-11-2022
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
I am cautiously optimistic about the return the Royals should get back for Beni. Seems like a strong market is setting up for him.
I've seen this mentioned elsewhere, but the Royals should really try and package Barlow with Beni if they send him to a contender. That could possibly bring back a REALLY nice return.
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duncan_idaho 12:09 PM 07-11-2022
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
It’s the Royals so you know it’s going to be a shitty trade return.

Clean house Sherman!


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But... it's not a shitty return.

It might PROVE to be one, but judging at the time, it is somewhere from a good return (a top 10 and a top 20 prospect and a throw in) to a really good return (depending on where you have Waters ranked. I suspect BP and MLB will have him in the top 10 due to his tools).

Waters had to be added to the 40-man roster before Rule V draft, the Braves are in a 40-man roster crunch situation, and Waters has been passed by another prospect in their system (Michael Harris II).
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Archie Bunker 12:17 PM 07-11-2022
Really good deal. Liked Waters for a while
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BWillie 12:24 PM 07-11-2022
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Waters is the Braves's #1 prospect and CF is a death mine in the Royals system. That opens up MAT for a trade now.
Is he a plus plus defender? Milb stats look a little underwhelming for a previous 2nd rd pick but if he can defend like Cain or Brett Phillips then all for it.
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Prison Bitch 12:28 PM 07-11-2022
Yeah I’m sure he will be as good as those two
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duncan_idaho 12:36 PM 07-11-2022
Waters' is not as good a defender as either of those guys. He's probably a fringy CF for the Royals/Kaufman Stadium.

His offensive upside is pretty high, though. Higher than Phillips.

In April of 2021, he was a consensus top 40 prospect. He has failed at AAA so far, but his failures are nowhere close to as bad as those of Melendez and Pratto (and are happening at a higher level).

The Royals are banking on their hitting guys being able to fix the approach issues that have stalled Waters' progress at AAA. It's a calculated risk, but one I'm interested to see
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Mecca 12:41 PM 07-11-2022
I still feel like this team won't contend again till Moore is gone, his inability to develop starting pitching is a real problem, loyalty to people he shouldn't be loyal to.

And on top of that his complete drive to love toolsy prospects that don't show return, being a great natural athlete doesn't translate to baseball perfectly. Yes a guy may be able to field great because of it, run the bases well etc..but hitting is a skill and no amount of great athlete can translate into this guy can hit.
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Mecca 12:42 PM 07-11-2022
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Is he a plus plus defender? Milb stats look a little underwhelming for a previous 2nd rd pick but if he can defend like Cain or Brett Phillips then all for it.
Brett Philips a guy the Royals gave up on and then traded for a sack of shit?
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Prison Bitch 12:56 PM 07-11-2022
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Brett Philips a guy the Royals gave up on and then traded for a sack of shit?
Yep. Dumped a min wage Uber-defender because he didn’t hit well, but says we need to keep Lil Nicky in the lineup because he’s a good defender even if he can’t hit
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