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Nzoner's Game Room>NFL Rumors: Mahomes, Watson atop KC's QB wish list
pugsnotdrugs19 11:15 PM 03-09-2017
From SportingNews.com:

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...j17r8odsobcbca

Originally Posted by :
— The Chiefs, who have been linked to most quarterbacks during the 2017 NFL Draft process so far, are in no rush to find a quarterback savior. With Alex Smith slated to be the starter in 2017 but ideally not in 2018, the Chiefs are looking for a passer with the highest upside without needing him to play as a rookie — a dream scenario for a quarterback prospect.

— I believe Patrick Mahomes is the Chiefs' QB1 from what I’ve heard, but Deshaun Watson makes sense as well. They’ll need to trade up for both. If they stay at 27, the one quarterback whom they could shockingly have interest in is Davis Webb of California. They’ve also shown interest in Nathan Peterman and Brad Kaaya, but likely don’t value either as top-two rounders.
Now, the writer of this got all of his info in the article from speaking to FO people and scouts at the combine. You can question the validity, but the Chiefs did meet with all of the players mentioned at the combine.

If this report is accurate, the Chiefs could indeed be on the path to Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson holding up their jersey in 7 weeks in Philadelphia.
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Coochie liquor 09:57 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by Nickhead:
hence why i think the chiefs will draft, if given the chance, a qb this year rather than next year in the first or second. not that they wont draft one again next year, just not as high up. again, im not privy to college games, so i don't know what is the best option realistically. just going off the fact alex will be the starter next year and possibly 18. the problem you run into is he incrementally gets better and they extend alex before 18 is up. :-)
he can't get much worse, 15 td's.... what's he gonna do next??
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Sandy Vagina 10:09 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Weapons all over the field? A similar arsenal to the one smith choked with.. great tight end play, Garcon and maclin are a wash, DeSean and tyreek are very similar. But didn't cousins rape smith statistically?
See, this is why people get head up ass about stats.

Try and follow the distinction.

One QB played within the scheme, and did not have to put up lots of effort in yards, TDs, etc.

The other QB did.

KC had twice the rank in defense for points allowed.

You can argue all day long about "what if" Smith could carry a team that must score often and play big boy ball. That, I get.. and despite some quick score drives where it looks like he can, I wouldn't argue much about whether it's his forte... it has not been, overall.

That said, when people keep pointing to stats, TDs thrown, etc... it does nothing but point out ignorance or stupidity to the scheme being implemented... implemented by Andy Reid.

Again and again and again... Alex Smith is not a special, amazing QB. Even I am looking forward to a KC team w/o him (assuming in this case, he doesn't become more aggressive).

but the stats issue keeps making me SMH.. can he put up big stats like others? maybe, maybe not.. but I think it's silly to condemn him for not putting up big stats when it's just not the gameplan.
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jd1020 10:12 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
To even think cousins is a good to great player based on two overrated seasons of play shows your ignorance. Weapons all over the field and he got what?? 8 wins?? Sounds like a young Matt Stafford to be :-)
Washington also has a shit run game and a mediocre at best defense. Can you imagine how many wins that team would get dropping from the 2nd ranked passing offense to Alex's 26th ranked passing offense?

DESEAN JACKSON OPEN DEEP!!!!!

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milkman 10:37 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks:
See, this is why people get head up ass about stats.

Try and follow the distinction.

One QB played within the scheme, and did not have to put up lots of effort in yards, TDs, etc.

The other QB did.

KC had twice the rank in defense for points allowed.

You can argue all day long about "what if" Smith could carry a team that must score often and play big boy ball. That, I get.. and despite some quick score drives where it looks like he can, I wouldn't argue much about whether it's his forte... it has not been, overall.

That said, when people keep pointing to stats, TDs thrown, etc... it does nothing but point out ignorance or stupidity to the scheme being implemented... implemented by Andy Reid.

Again and again and again... Alex Smith is not a special, amazing QB. Even I am looking forward to a KC team w/o him (assuming in this case, he doesn't become more aggressive).

but the stats issue keeps making me SMH.. can he put up big stats like others? maybe, maybe not.. but I think it's silly to condemn him for not putting up big stats when it's just not the gameplan.
I agree with the idea that numbers don't tell the story.
I always say, stats mean jack.

But this is bullshit.

How many times has Alex thrown short of the goal line in the red zone?
In goal to go situations?

15 TDs doesn't tell the story.
The missed opportunities do.
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Sandy Vagina 11:01 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:

15 TDs doesn't tell the story.
The missed opportunities do.
and I agree with this. Smith misses a good number of opportunities, and it's frustrating.

However... if we scrutinize the majority of games by most QBs every week, guess what? Yep. Lots of missed opportunities.

and still, I'd bet that Smith has more than his share... and that HAS to stop. I feel that this comes from both Andy and Dorsey --------> He's basically getting 1 more chance to find his balls in this evolved offense... or he will be tossed out.
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 11:29 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Washington also has a shit run game and a mediocre at best defense. Can you imagine how many wins that team would get dropping from the 2nd ranked passing offense to Alex's 26th ranked passing offense?

DESEAN JACKSON OPEN DEEP!!!!!

....

This isn't a Smith topic.

Reported for trolling
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 11:31 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Weapons all over the field? A similar arsenal to the one smith choked with.. great tight end play, Garcon and maclin are a wash, DeSean and tyreek are very similar. But didn't cousins rape smith statistically?
Ignorant comment of the day.
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Nightfyre 11:36 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
This isn't a Smith topic.

Reported for trolling
Reported for being a douche.
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Nickhead 11:37 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
This isn't a Smith topic.

Reported for trolling

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SAUTO 11:40 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
This isn't a Smith topic.

Reported for trolling
That's funny, I can't find that report anywhere...
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Reerun_KC 11:49 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by jd1020:

Originally Posted by milkman:
15 TDs doesn't tell the story.
The missed opportunities do.


Two great posts that tell the whole story of why.
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Reerun_KC 11:50 AM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO:
That's funny, I can't find that report anywhere...
So basically its spam to derail threads?
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 12:13 PM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO:
That's funny, I can't find that report anywhere...
Again, abusing your mod powers. First you censor. Then you dick with settings. Then you quote me incorrectly numerous times. And now you take away the report button that you and TimBone have encouraged we use to report trolling.

This is the definition of censorship.

Kyle must be so proud of you.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 12:15 PM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
This isn't a Smith topic.

Reported for trolling
At last, we agree. Smith should not be mentioned in the same thread or breath as Mahomes or Watson.

Two of these things belong together,
one of these things is useless shit.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 12:21 PM 03-11-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
This is the greatest Mod team in the history of this website.
Innit' though?

You should donate hookers and blow to SAUTO and Tim Bone; that would be a great use of your donation money. I bet you could make it rain( pennies ).
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