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lewdog 09:53 PM 02-19-2015
Not really but lewdog has been presented with a pretty good deal and would like to hear from car enthusiasts. Note, I don't know much about cars but I would like to own a somewhat nice one someday. My current ride is a 2001 Toyota Celica with 98k miles. Boy howdy!

My Father-in-law bought a 2005 Mustang GT Premium new on custom order and has kept the car this whole time garaged/covered. He only drove it during the short summers in Montana. It only has 14,500 miles on it! He's done quite a few modifications, which I have scanned below. Not sure what it all means but it's around 10k of modifications.

He's wanting to sell it as it's never gotten much use and is offering it to me for 13k. When comparing this to other Mustang GTs of that year, it's lower in price and has lower miles.

Photos below.

Thoughts on what lewdog should do?










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MIAdragon 05:30 PM 03-02-2015
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Celica is getting sold and I'll tell my uncle that the 'Stang is gonna get daily driven into the ground!

He worked in Detroit in the automotive industry as an engineer for 40+ years. He can tell you about any car ever made. I noticed this back in October when I went to the Henry Ford Museum.

He has a 1974 Corvette Stingray, the year in which he designed the working mechanisms behind the dashboard, that he puts about 1k miles on per year. It's had tons of work to maintain it, even as little as he drives it. Not to mention it rides like a rough hog on most roads, not to mention the shitty roads in Detroit. You couldn't realistically daily drive that thing. I think he is having trouble equating a mid 2000's muscle car to his mid 1970's Corvette. Besides him, everyone else says drive it. It's a car and will be fun for me. :-)

I've also been reading about that 2005 GT model on the internet and there are plenty of higher mileage ones still going strong and most people say the car has been very reliable. Engines nowadays are really built to last.
That 3V will last you well past 100K. Change the oil and enjoy. You're over thinking this.
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lewdog 06:07 PM 03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Baconeater:
1974 is about the worst possible year of corvette to own. 1st year of the plastic bumper POSes
It's funny but I was back there in October. I hadn't been back in 10 years but I remember seeing that Corvette and thinking it was pretty neat. Now that I am not a teenager, it seemed not as neat. Had no idea about that bumper but that sucks!

Originally Posted by MIAdragon:
That 3V will last you well past 100K. Change the oil and enjoy. You're over thinking this.
:-)

You are catching on!


Truth be told, I never thought I'd own an American car. Yup, I'm one of those guys. Reliability of the domestic cars has never matched foreign counterparts, and I never thought I'd buy a performance car so comparing them that way had no bearing. But really, I am no longer stressing over this from any standpoint. I really can't wait to get it. Even trying to take care of that black paint and tan interior.
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Rain Man 06:12 PM 03-02-2015
I have no idea why wheels are so expensive. If you look at a new car, it has probably 50,000 precisely manufactured parts working in unison. And yet the "optional wheels" are 10 percent of the purchase price. I need to get into that line of business because the big money is apparently in making and selling wheels.
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lewdog 06:59 PM 03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
I have no idea why wheels are so expensive. If you look at a new car, it has probably 50,000 precisely manufactured parts working in unison. And yet the "optional wheels" are 10 percent of the purchase price. I need to get into that line of business because the big money is apparently in making and selling wheels.
Apricot colored spinner rims and you'd be making millions!!!
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lewdog 06:22 PM 03-05-2015
Just because everyone loves my car saga, I had to put more money into the Celica today. No fault of the car itself, however.

Driving down the freeway at 80 MPH and some douche in a truck, a bit up a head in the far left lane drops a ton of mud/rocks from the underside of his truck. NO FUCKING MUD FLAPS! It rocket flies towards the front of my car, a car that has no bottom grill below the license plate. Yes, all celicas were made like this. Directly in that area is my AC Condensor. It clearly dents that pretty far back and cracks some of it. I take it to the mechanic in case the radiator is leaking and they tell me my radiator sits behind there and it's likely that has been hit from the AC condensor being dented so hard. However, at this time it's not leaking.

So I left the car there over-night so they can diagnose in the morning. Gives me a quote, which sucks for a car I am selling. Anyway, once they disassemble, it turns out there's a shield between my AC condensor and my radiator. Only the shield was hit and the radiator was fine.

It's funny but the AC in this car has NEVER been serviced. I am not sure how that's possible but getting the AC condensor fixed obviously had them recharge my whole AC which probably needed to be done anyway.

So now whowever gets my car now has new AC as well! Price might go up a bit with more work being added in, however.


Thanks for listening CP!
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SAUTO 06:37 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Just because everyone loves my car saga, I had to put more money into the Celica today. No fault of the car itself, however.

Driving down the freeway at 80 MPH and some douche in a truck, a bit up a head in the far left lane drops a ton of mud/rocks from the underside of his truck. NO FUCKING MUD FLAPS! It rocket flies towards the front of my car, a car that has no bottom grill below the license plate. Yes, all celicas were made like this. Directly in that area is my AC Condensor. It clearly dents that pretty far back and cracks some of it. I take it to the mechanic in case the radiator is leaking and they tell me my radiator sits behind there and it's likely that has been hit from the AC condensor being dented so hard. However, at this time it's not leaking.

So I left the car there over-night so they can diagnose in the morning. Gives me a quote, which sucks for a car I am selling. Anyway, once they disassemble, it turns out there's a shield between my AC condensor and my radiator. Only the shield was hit and the radiator was fine.

It's funny but the AC in this car has NEVER been serviced. I am not sure how that's possible but getting the AC condensor fixed obviously had them recharge my whole AC which probably needed to be done anyway.

So now whowever gets my car now has new AC as well! Price might go up a bit with more work being added in, however.


Thanks for listening CP!
if it doesn't leak there is no reason to service the AC.
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lewdog 08:00 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO:
if it doesn't leak there is no reason to service the AC.
The AC condensor was cracked and dented. So it was replaced.

Looks like this but had a huge dent/misaligned and cracked horizontal panels. About the size of a tennis ball mark.




If you are talking about never servicing my AC, I find it odd that running it here for three summers that it never quit. It gets run from March through October here. And even sporadically in the winter.
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Bugeater 08:25 PM 03-05-2015
That really sucks because even if you know damn well which vehicle it came off of there's no way to prove it. I had a windshield get fucked up a few years back from a similar situation.
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vailpass 08:46 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Just because everyone loves my car saga, I had to put more money into the Celica today. No fault of the car itself, however.

Driving down the freeway at 80 MPH and some douche in a truck, a bit up a head in the far left lane drops a ton of mud/rocks from the underside of his truck. NO ****ING MUD FLAPS! It rocket flies towards the front of my car, a car that has no bottom grill below the license plate. Yes, all celicas were made like this. Directly in that area is my AC Condensor. It clearly dents that pretty far back and cracks some of it. I take it to the mechanic in case the radiator is leaking and they tell me my radiator sits behind there and it's likely that has been hit from the AC condensor being dented so hard. However, at this time it's not leaking.

So I left the car there over-night so they can diagnose in the morning. Gives me a quote, which sucks for a car I am selling. Anyway, once they disassemble, it turns out there's a shield between my AC condensor and my radiator. Only the shield was hit and the radiator was fine.

It's funny but the AC in this car has NEVER been serviced. I am not sure how that's possible but getting the AC condensor fixed obviously had them recharge my whole AC which probably needed to be done anyway.

So now whowever gets my car now has new AC as well! Price might go up a bit with more work being added in, however.


Thanks for listening CP!
You got the 10 17 51 101 202 303 blues. Sorry to hear it man. At least a cement truck didn't get you...
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eDave 08:54 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by vailpass:
You got the 10 17 51 101 202 303 blues. Sorry to hear it man. At least a cement truck didn't get you...
Fuck the 17. Just got a window nick yesterday along there. That highway sucks major ass. Fuck that road.
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vailpass 09:14 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by eDave:
**** the 17. Just got a window nick yesterday along there. That highway sucks major ass. **** that road.
Heh yes 17 sucks. Then again any of the freeways are just a construction guy who doesn't know how to secure the ladder in his truck away from wrecking our day.
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lewdog 09:24 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by Baconeater:
That really sucks because even if you know damn well which vehicle it came off of there's no way to prove it. I had a windshield get fucked up a few years back from a similar situation.
Yea everyone at work said I should have gotten the license plate. Not sure what good that would have done. It was fairly far ahead of me and I was just nearing my exit. Not to mention the loudness of it made me think nothing happened. Oh yea, windshields get fucked up all the time. It's annoying.

Originally Posted by vailpass:
You got the 10 17 51 101 202 303 blues. Sorry to hear it man. At least a cement truck didn't get you...
101 blue here. :-)

Originally Posted by eDave:
Fuck the 17. Just got a window nick yesterday along there. That highway sucks major ass. Fuck that road.
I HATE the 17. Glad I rarely drive it unless I am heading north of Phoenix to Prescott, Sedona or Flagstaff.

Originally Posted by vailpass:
Heh yes 17 sucks. Then again any of the freeways are just a construction guy who doesn't know how to secure the ladder in his truck away from wrecking our day.
This and all of this.
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Bearcat 09:31 PM 03-05-2015
I thought putting "the" in front of highway numbers was just a California thing.
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Bugeater 10:41 PM 03-05-2015
What really gets me is the rock trucks that have the signs on the back that says STAY BACK 500 FEET NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGE.

Uhhh...no, you should damn well be responsible for any damage from rocks coming off your truck. Secure your fucking load or stay off the fucking road.
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Radar Chief 08:33 AM 03-06-2015
Originally Posted by lewdog:
It's funny but I was back there in October. I hadn't been back in 10 years but I remember seeing that Corvette and thinking it was pretty neat. Now that I am not a teenager, it seemed not as neat. Had no idea about that bumper but that sucks!
Stingrays are by far my favorite Corvettes and 74 was the last pre-smog control year when you could still get one with a 454 in it. After that they got loaded down with smog pumps and a rats nest of vacuum hoses that made for anemic engines.
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