Originally Posted by Kiimo:
Man, one day I'm going to see you have the RIGHT take on a subject. Your history has been nothing short of astounding so far.
I am just disagreeable and unlikeable. That is why you disagree with me, not due to the takes itself.
I am here to balance Chiefsplanet so that its blatant homerism does not tip the scale and engulf this place info flames.
Originally Posted by BWillie:
I am just disagreeable and unlikeable. That is why you disagree with me, not due to the takes itself.
I am here to balance Chiefsplanet so that its blatant homerism does not tip the scale and engulf this place info flames.
Even the devil needs an advocate.
Theres plenty of pessimism on the board. Trust me, you playing devils advocate isn't needed. But if you enjoy doing it, feel free.
Also, listen specifically to what Mahomes says about Smith. He specifically mentions things like where your hands should be under center to save time and make things easier. The attention to detail, the prep before a game, he said it probably advanced him 1 year in his game before he played a snap.
That's not nothing. He could've easily been nice and respectful and said "he was a great guy, a real pro, I think I learned a lot." But he didn't. He went out of his way to say Smith advanced his game. I'd listen to him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
Theres plenty of pessimism on the board. Trust me, you playing devils advocate isn't needed. But if you enjoy doing it, feel free.
Also, listen specifically to what Mahomes says about Smith. He specifically mentions things like where your hands should be under center to save time and make things easier. The attention to detail, the prep before a game, he said it probably advanced him 1 year in his game before he played a snap.
That's not nothing. He could've easily been nice and respectful and said "he was a great guy, a real pro, I think I learned a lot." But he didn't. He went out of his way to say Smith advanced his game. I'd listen to him.
Playing in 2017 would have also advanced his game.
Would you trade what we have right now, 4 SB appearances in 5 years, 3 SB wins , AFCCG every year, for the unknown behind the curtain of a full 2017 Mahomes starting season? [Reply]
This "debate" is ridiculous (and obviously intended to be so). Mahomes learned a lot about being a pro from his father. But he was also lucky enough to sit a year and learn in the NFL. Alex, by Pat's own admission, taught him how to be an NFL pro. Smith was a willing teacher and put in the practice and film review you feign to disdain. Breaking down film together for a season could have done nothing but make Mahomes better.
But I also believe it we had left Mahomes as QB after the week 18 game in Denver the team would have had a chance at a super bowl. But you never know. And it let the team end things nicely with Alex for his assistance with football jesus and got us a nice draft pick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
I am just disagreeable and unlikeable. That is why you disagree with me, not due to the takes itself.
I am here to balance Chiefsplanet so that its blatant homerism does not tip the scale and engulf this place info flames.
Even the devil needs an advocate.
In this case you're actually being the homer, though. You're saying Mahomes didn't need mentorship to be as incredible as he was right out of the gate. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wallymo:
This "debate" is ridiculous (and obviously intended to be so). Mahomes learned a lot about being a pro from his father. But he was also lucky enough to sit a year and learn in the NFL. Alex, by Pat's own admission, taught him how to be an NFL pro. Smith was a willing teacher and put in the practice and film review you feign to disdain. Breaking down film together for a season could have done nothing but make Mahomes better.
But I also believe it we had left Mahomes as QB after the week 18 game in Denver the team would have had a chance at a super bowl. But you never know. And it let the team end things nicely with Alex for his assistance with football jesus and got us a nice draft pick.
What we do know is every single time a player was allowed a year or two to be groomed by a willing starter it only served to be a positive.
That's not the case with rookie starters. In fact most guys aren't ready to start year one, they could use the time to cook, and sometimes the experience ruins them. [Reply]