Originally Posted by kccrow:
A guy has to be a pretty eye-popping talent for me to say grab a WR in the first. It's a lot like RB to me. You can get really good ones in round 2. I don't know if it's a necessity for this team either.
If the obvious value falls, I'm good with it. Say a guy like Jaxon Smith-Njigba falls, yeah go ahead. I'm high on Hyatt as well, I think he has some game-changing speed and is a really solid WR to boot.
Otherwise, I think there is a lot of value in round 2 types this year. Xavier Hutchinson, Rashee Rice, Marvin Mims, Rakeem Jarrett, A.T. Perry, etc. I wouldn't go chasing one down.
I think you have to at least address RT and D-Line early though. I guess I'm really more on seeing who falls through the cracks in the 3rd round and maybe even making a move there. The kid from Cincinnati intrigues me.
The gap in talent is normally quite big between the WRs taken at the beginning and end of the 2nd round though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dull Tools:
The gap in talent is normally quite big between the WRs taken at the beginning and end of the 2nd round though.
I really don't think so, honestly. Maybe there are a few examples of that but not from a general historical perspective. Here are the past 10 years of drafts. I'd argue the best spot is in the mid-40s to mid-50s but it's really more of a general crapshoot as to where. I've bolded some of the better receivers, not that there aren't some other solid players in there.
2012
2-43 Stephen Hill 2-45 Alshon Jeffery
2-54 Ryan Broyles
2-63 Rueben Randle
2013
2-34 Justin Hunter 2-41 Robert Woods
2-59 Aaron Dobson
2014
2-39 Marqise Lee 2-42 Jordan Matthews
2-45 Paul Richardson 2-53 Devante Adams
2-56 Cody Latimer 2-61 Allen Robinson 2-63 Jarvis Landry
2015
2-37 Devin Smith
2-40 Dorial Green-Beckham
2-41 Devin Funchess
2016
2-40 Sterling Shepard 2-47 Michael Thomas 2-55 Tyler Boyd
2017
2-37 Zay Jones
2-40 Curtis Samuel 2-62 JuJu Smith-Schuster
2018 2-40 Courtland Sutton
2-44 Dante Pettis 2-47 Christian Kirk
2-51 Anthony Miller
2-60 James Washington
2-61 D.J. Chark
2019 2-36 Deebo Samuel 2-51 A.J. Brown
2-56 Mecole Hardman
2-57 J.J. Arcega-Whiteside
2-59 Parris Campbell
2-62 Andy Isabella 2-64 D.K. Metcalf
2020 2-33 Tee Higgins 2-34 Michael Pittman, Jr.
2-42 Laviska Shenault
2-46 K.J. Hamler 2-49 Chase Claypool
2-57 Van Jefferson
2-59 Denzel Mims
2021
2-34 Elijah Moore
2-49 Rondale Moore
2-56 D'Wayne Eskridge
2-57 Tutu Atwell
2-59 Terrace Marshall, Jr.
2022 2-34 Christian Watson
2-43 Wan'Dale Robinson
2-44 John Metchie III
2-50 Tyquan Thornton 2-52 George Pickens 2-53 Alec Pierce
2-54 Skyy Moore [Reply]
There are quite a lot of misses in there though. So it isn't a guarentee.
I am just looking at the Bengals this year. We aren't ever going to be able to pick a Chase but having 2 cheap WRs who are at a top level is such an advantage.
I think the whole Chase vs Sewell debate has proved that the WR was the better option. They can come in and contribute day one.
I just think you can find a way to get decent play from an OL from free agency and later in the draft but if you can have multiple cheap wide recievers then it can really raise your ceiling.
I think we have Toney now on a cheap deal who can be really good. Hopefully Skyy Moore comes good too and we pay Juju and we have three top WRs and the average accross the three won't be too high. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dull Tools:
There are quite a lot of misses in there though. So it isn't a guarentee.
I am just looking at the Bengals this year. We aren't ever going to be able to pick a Chase but having 2 cheap WRs who are at a top level is such an advantage.
I think the whole Chase vs Sewell debate has proved that the WR was the better option. They can come in and contribute day one.
I just think you can find a way to get decent play from an OL from free agency and later in the draft but if you can have multiple cheap wide recievers then it can really raise your ceiling.
I think we have Toney now on a cheap deal who can be really good. Hopefully Skyy Moore comes good too and we pay Juju and we have three top WRs and the average accross the three won't be too high.
There are first round misses all over the place, too. There's no guarantees anywhere. [Reply]
Sunday’s game solidified that the WRs on this roster need an influx in talent. Hardman and Juju will likely be gone. Toney can’t stay healthy. Skyy Moore hasn’t proven a damn thing, counting on him to take a significant leap would be a huge risk. MVS flashes at times, like last night, but I don’t trust him to do that week in and week out. KC needs a difference maker on the perimeter. [Reply]
Maybe put some feelers out to SF on Brandon Aiyuk? He’s in his last contract year in 2023 and they’re set to pay a combined $60 million in 2024 between Kittle, Debo, and McCaffrey. [Reply]
Aiyuk would be badass in this offense, but you'd have to give up a pick and pay him and I'm not doing that for anything other than a pass rusher or a LT.
I'd look at the draft or FA.
Aiyuk would cost you a 1 or a 2 and some change then you're giving him.....Cortland Sutton +10%'s deal? I dont' think I'd do that. [Reply]