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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Biden’s ‘Infrastructure’ Bill Contains Backdoor ‘Kill Switch’ For Cars
BucEyedPea 02:41 PM 11-29-2021
Buried deep within the massive infrastructure legislation recently signed by President Joe Biden is a little-noticed “safety” measure that will take effect in five years. Marketed to Congress as a benign tool to help prevent drunk driving, the measure will mandate that automobile manufacturers build into every car what amounts to a “vehicle kill switch.”...

The lack of ultimate control over one’s vehicle presents numerous and extremely serious safety issues; issues that should have been obvious to Members of Congress before they voted on the measure...

Adding what amounts to a mandatory, backdoor government “kill switch” to cars is not only a violation of our constitutional rights, but an affront to what is — or used to be — an essential element of our national character. Unless this regulatory mandate is not quickly removed or defanged by way of an appropriations rider preventing its implementation, the freedom of the open road that individual car ownership brought to the American Dream, will be but another vague memory of an era no longer to be enjoyed by future generations.



https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/29/b...itch-for-cars/


Bob Barr represented Georgia’s Seventh District in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003.

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MahomesMagic 03:51 PM 11-29-2021
Well, here's the good news. If you use up your carbon credits too soon that month, your car will automatically be disabled.

For your safety. And the planet's safety.
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AdolfOliverBush 04:13 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Pawnmower:
youre not seriously arguing in favor of some kind of kill switch on cars?


I mean this story , considering BEP is the OP is probably bullshit but...


why would any person actually be in favor of a remote kill switch on a car?


That seems fairly unreasonable to me..
To stop drunk drivers, and people fleeing from law enforcement.

But you're right, the fact the BEP posted it likely means it isn't happening.
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Hammock Parties 04:14 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Exactly!

You'd think their de-population agenda would reduce vehicles without resorting to this. I can see this expanding to carbon use too. They usually start such things under innocuous reasons at first, only to allow the bureaucracy to expand such things on their own without legislation.
In the Soviet Union only the elites had cars for the most part, and even then it took years to get one.
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AdolfOliverBush 04:19 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Exactly!

You'd think their de-population agenda would reduce vehicles without resorting to this. I can see this expanding to carbon use too. They usually start such things under innocuous reasons at first, only to allow the bureaucracy to expand such things on their own without legislation.
Imagine living in an imaginary world where there's a "depopulation agenda". It must be terrifying.
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BucEyedPea 04:24 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
In the Soviet Union only the elites had cars for the most part, and even then it took years to get one.
Plus the ones they made were crap—like most govt products.

The elites probably imported theirs.
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scho63 05:17 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
First, Bob Barr is a scumbag.

Second, cops can already stop your car with spike strips, pit maneuvers, and bullets.

Third, driving a privilege, not a right.
You would grovel on your knees for crumbs.......you deserve to be a serf. :-)
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Eureka 05:24 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
As Barr says in the link this measure is short on details, which is a problem in itself, but he offers this:
First, use of the word “passively” suggests the system will always be on and constantly monitoring the vehicle. Secondly, the system must connect to the vehicle’s operational controls, so as to disable the vehicle either before driving or during, when impairment is detected. Thirdly, it will be an “open” system, or at least one with a backdoor, meaning authorized (or unauthorized) third-parties can remotely access the system’s data at any time.

This is a privacy disaster in the making, and the fact that the provision made it through the Congress reveals — yet again — how little its members care about the privacy of their constituents.
Might as well just make one of these devices standard required equipment. Here's one of BEP taking the test. :-)


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Bump 05:24 PM 11-29-2021
government must be all powerful and the people should not have any say how they can live their lives. Liberals defending this because it's what The Party wants. Like I've said, all they care about is their party getting more power over the people.
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Eureka 05:30 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Pawnmower:
Not sure when or if you always have been, but you have turned into a huge ****ing pile of shit moron.


How could anyone be in favor of this?



I am ashamed that Eureka is in your name. I doubt you even live there.
It was Sarcasm bro. I'm def not in favor of it.

The government can require manufactures to install certain equipment though. I sold cars for years and seeing a car have no radio/No AC/roll up windows etc and yet is required to have TPMS/Airbags/ABS just made me go :-)

I'm thinking this kind of requirement can be put in under the guise of safety?
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Ninerfan11 05:33 PM 11-29-2021
Adolph exposing himself once again.
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Eureka 05:39 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Exactly, or just drive a car that doesn't have such a feature.
I don't want a newer car with TPMS or Airbags. What are my options?
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tyecopeland 05:41 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Pawnmower:
youre not seriously arguing in favor of some kind of kill switch on cars?


I mean this story , considering BEP is the OP is probably bullshit but...


why would any person actually be in favor of a remote kill switch on a car?


That seems fairly unreasonable to me..
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
To stop drunk drivers, and people fleeing from law enforcement.

But you're right, the fact the BEP posted it likely means it isn't happening.
It's legit. I posted about it in one of the infrastructure bill threads.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...8&postcount=81
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BucEyedPea 06:16 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Ninerfan11:
Adolph exposing himself once again.
Is he a pervert too? :-)
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BucEyedPea 06:18 PM 11-29-2021
Bob Barr is a liberty-minded Constitutional patriot. Adolph only thinks he's scum because he went after scumbag Bill Clinton during the impeachment in the 1990s.
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Bob Dole 06:43 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Eureka:
Might as well just make one of these devices standard required equipment. Here's one of BEP taking the test. :-)

I was about to say the same thing. An interlock on every car! If the objective is really to stop drunk driving, that would almost eliminate it completely. But we all know that's not the real objective.

Plus, when you blow bad, they can make you pay to reset it or your car won't start after 72 hours. More revenue!!!
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