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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Biden’s ‘Infrastructure’ Bill Contains Backdoor ‘Kill Switch’ For Cars
BucEyedPea 02:41 PM 11-29-2021
Buried deep within the massive infrastructure legislation recently signed by President Joe Biden is a little-noticed “safety” measure that will take effect in five years. Marketed to Congress as a benign tool to help prevent drunk driving, the measure will mandate that automobile manufacturers build into every car what amounts to a “vehicle kill switch.”...

The lack of ultimate control over one’s vehicle presents numerous and extremely serious safety issues; issues that should have been obvious to Members of Congress before they voted on the measure...

Adding what amounts to a mandatory, backdoor government “kill switch” to cars is not only a violation of our constitutional rights, but an affront to what is — or used to be — an essential element of our national character. Unless this regulatory mandate is not quickly removed or defanged by way of an appropriations rider preventing its implementation, the freedom of the open road that individual car ownership brought to the American Dream, will be but another vague memory of an era no longer to be enjoyed by future generations.



https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/29/b...itch-for-cars/


Bob Barr represented Georgia’s Seventh District in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003.

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AdolfOliverBush 02:55 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Buried deep within the massive infrastructure legislation recently signed by President Joe Biden is a little-noticed “safety” measure that will take effect in five years. Marketed to Congress as a benign tool to help prevent drunk driving, the measure will mandate that automobile manufacturers build into every car what amounts to a “vehicle kill switch.”...

The lack of ultimate control over one’s vehicle presents numerous and extremely serious safety issues; issues that should have been obvious to Members of Congress before they voted on the measure...

Adding what amounts to a mandatory, backdoor government “kill switch” to cars is not only a violation of our constitutional rights, but an affront to what is — or used to be — an essential element of our national character. Unless this regulatory mandate is not quickly removed or defanged by way of an appropriations rider preventing its implementation, the freedom of the open road that individual car ownership brought to the American Dream, will be but another vague memory of an era no longer to be enjoyed by future generations.



https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/29/b...itch-for-cars/


Bob Barr represented Georgia’s Seventh District in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003.
First, Bob Barr is a scumbag.

Second, cops can already stop your car with spike strips, pit maneuvers, and bullets.

Third, driving a privilege, not a right.
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Eureka 03:07 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
First, Bob Barr is a scumbag.

Second, cops can already stop your car with spike strips, pit maneuvers, and bullets.

Third, driving a privilege, not a right.
If you don't like this kind of mandate then just don't drive. Just like you don't have to go into business's with a mask that require them. No one is forcing you to drive.
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AdolfOliverBush 03:11 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Eureka:
If you don't like this kind of mandate then just don't drive. Just like you don't have to go into business's with a mask that require them. No one is forcing you to drive.
Exactly, or just drive a car that doesn't have such a feature.
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Otter 03:19 PM 11-29-2021
And how is this activated.
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Hammock Parties 03:20 PM 11-29-2021
They don't want you driving cars. They want you taking the fucking bus.
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Garcia Bronco 03:21 PM 11-29-2021
Such a switch in a car could be remotely hacked depending on configuration.
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BucEyedPea 03:39 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Otter:
And how is this activated.
As Barr says in the link this measure is short on details, which is a problem in itself, but he offers this:
First, use of the word “passively” suggests the system will always be on and constantly monitoring the vehicle. Secondly, the system must connect to the vehicle’s operational controls, so as to disable the vehicle either before driving or during, when impairment is detected. Thirdly, it will be an “open” system, or at least one with a backdoor, meaning authorized (or unauthorized) third-parties can remotely access the system’s data at any time.

This is a privacy disaster in the making, and the fact that the provision made it through the Congress reveals — yet again — how little its members care about the privacy of their constituents.

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BucEyedPea 03:40 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
They don't want you driving cars. They want you taking the ****ing bus.
Exactly!

You'd think their de-population agenda would reduce vehicles without resorting to this. I can see this expanding to carbon use too. They usually start such things under innocuous reasons at first, only to allow the bureaucracy to expand such things on their own without legislation.
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Pawnmower 03:43 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Second, cops can already stop your car with spike strips, pit maneuvers, and bullets.

youre not seriously arguing in favor of some kind of kill switch on cars?


I mean this story , considering BEP is the OP is probably bullshit but...


why would any person actually be in favor of a remote kill switch on a car?


That seems fairly unreasonable to me..
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BucEyedPea 03:44 PM 11-29-2021
No this story is former Congressman Bill Barr's story. Someone is shooting the messenger.
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Pawnmower 03:45 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Eureka:
If you don't like this kind of mandate then just don't drive. Just like you don't have to go into business's with a mask that require them. No one is forcing you to drive.

Not sure when or if you always have been, but you have turned into a huge ****ing pile of shit moron.


How could anyone be in favor of this?



I am ashamed that Eureka is in your name. I doubt you even live there.
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kcpasco 03:47 PM 11-29-2021
Just wait until the climate freaks get ahold of it and put a restriction on the amount of miles you are allowed per month.
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Donger 03:49 PM 11-29-2021
https://www.motortrend.com/news/anti...tructure-bill/
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Pawnmower 03:51 PM 11-29-2021
Originally Posted by Eureka:
If you don't like this kind of mandate then just don't drive. Just like you don't have to go into
business's with a mask that require them. No one is forcing you to drive.
idiot analogy


Here's the way it should work:

1) Businesses can demand their customers wear masks, and custimers can decide if they want to go into that business.
Nothing Should be forced, let the free market decide. A competitor can have a maskless business, and see whose buisiness does better.

2) Car makers make cars with a kill switch and see if they sell better than those without. Competitors make cars without a kill switch and see if they do better than those with them

Free market, choice etc..
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Versus
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A) Government demanding that small businesses enforce masks, no options. They shut you down if you do not comply. Free market gone

B) Government demands car makers all install these kill switches. No choice. Free market gone.
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big difference...
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