Here ya go. Watson vs Press man,

https://youtu.be/GhGTJBg_XIQ
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So we're watching a guy in shorts.

Again.

Definitely not an underwear warrior.
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What's wrong with an underwear warrior? I think it sounds kinda sexy
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Yeah I just don't see it. Don't think his releases are great, not particularly shifty, don't think he sets people up that well, his hands don't look anything special but not seen drops etc. I get it, he's big and fast, but isn't that what we have MVS for? Completely accept I may just be missing stuff but the more I look at WRs in this draft the less convinced I am.

I reckon Olave and Wilson have zero bust potential. London could end up being a limited miss-match/red-zone guy, Jameson could struggle with press, Burks could be a giant slug with those measurables...or they all could be superstars. Glad I'm not having to pick, I have an aneurysm just doing mock drafts.
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Biggest bust potential for me is London. Dude refuses to run or do agility drills. Tape says 'contested catch guy', which is code for 'big and slow'.
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Not so bad now that we have #29 as well.
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This is how Dexter McClusters happen.

"Oh, well we have an extra pick, so its okay if we set one of them on fire..."

Reaching because you have another pick doesn't do anything to diminish the opportunity cost of any individual bad pick.

And Christian Watson in the first round would be a REALLY bad pick.
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Man you are just ADAMANT.

LOL

comparing Watson, a 6'4" 210 lb. WR who runs a legit 4.3 and got a perfect 10 RAS score at the combine to McCluster (who made up for being tiny by also being slow) is nuts.

Look- you want to knock Watson over the strength of competition, that's understandable. You want to knock him for his stats-well, then you're not listening to what his situation with QB's was in college.

But the kid is a FREAK athlete. I mean, his ceiling is GENERATIONAL TALENT with that ability. His floor is probably lower than some others, but this is not Dexter McCluster, who didn't really do anything at all well, not even run fast.
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But here's my question - if you are an FCS coach and you have Randy Moss on your roster - You're not finding ways to get that guy the football every couple of plays?

The issue I have with his production isn't even that he didn't go off playing w/ substandard competition. It's that his coaches - the guys who saw him practice every day and play every weekend - didn't feel COMPELLED to force him the football.

Any swinging dick who's ever so much as watched a football game would know to get Megatron the football if he's playing against glorified High School talent. And yet these coaches didn't see a need to do so.

So either these are the dumbest human beings on the planet, or this guy ISN'T the football player some are claiming he is.

I'm not doubting things like the RAS score - because again, hell of an underwear warrior. I'm asking why this 'generational athlete' got 15 carries all season. Or why he wasn't getting 10 targets a game on bubble screens or quick slants. In a run-first offense, why not single-read RPO plays? Remember that year that Mizzou realized their WR room had fallen apart so they decided "Y'know what? This year our offense is going to be running the football and throwing it to Danario Alexander every play in 15 different ways..."

And that was against Division I competition and a guy who wasn't the 'freak' Watson is. Dude went for 1,800 yards when the 2nd leading receiving option on the team had 700.

His utilization, or lack thereof, against incredibly poor competition says something about who he is as an actual football player.

And yeah, I'm WHOLLY opposed to taking this guy in the first or even with the 50. I'd maybe consider him in the late 2nd and even that's not terribly likely.

Before he ran fast in track shorts this guy was a 3rd round pick by virtually every scouting service. Now we're in "talk ourselves into this guy" season and suddenly I'm supposed to act like Randy Moss 2.0 just got overlooked by his coaches in the FCS?

Eh. Not buying it.
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Ready for your priority UDFA?

Jake Parker, WR, Howard Payne University.

Why you ask? He went to HS with Mahomes, was in his wedding and is now declaring for the draft. Apparently he’d been out of football for a couple of years before going to Howard Payne.

He’s the new Dieter.
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And I'm not even saying we SHOULD take him at #30.

His potential floor worries me. Is it MVS, or is it lower? I don't know.

I like the kid, but I think Pierce is a similar guy, with a more proven track record, so to speak.

I don't know. But I won't be mad if Veach does take Watson at #30, it'll just mean that what my eyes told me was legit.
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His floor is substantially lower. MVS is nearer his ceiling than his floor.

His floor is, I dunno, Matt Jones. And even that may be an oversell.

C'mon guys. Randy Moss went for 1,800 yards in his only year in college football. Calvin Johnson went for 1,200 at Georgia Tech.

Generational talents get the ball. No coach is so stupid as to not find ways to get the football to guys like that.

And Watson's coaches just didn't. That absolutely means something.
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I can also see something like this:

29 and 30: DE and DT (Mafe or Williams paired with Travis Jones is my favorite grouping)

50: DE or CB (Cam Thomas sweet spot, Sam Williams potential spot, maybe one of the hybrid S)

TRADE UP from 62 into the mid-50s (would cost a 2023 4th, roughly) to take the WR they want. POtentially Christian Watson, potentially someone else.

I'm with Meck, though. If they take Watson, it means to me they are sold on his athletic ability and the rare quick twitch and explosion. There are guys that big and fast in the NFL (not a lot, but some). But for a guy to be that big and fast and ALSO have the agility and movement is rare, to me.

I think Marquez Valdes-Scantling is a solid floor for Christian Watson. He's going to be valuable at least to that level. Ceiling is high, though, as high as anyone in this draft class.
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If it came down to Burks or Watson in the 1st....I'm going Burks 10 times out of 10.
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I'm probably going Sam Williams and Travis Jones at that point.

There's ZERO reason to hem ourselves into WR at the back end of the first. Absolutely none whatsoever.
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