Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
This took me out of it within the first 5 minutes. The first chase scene involved the main character chick miraculously avoiding machine gun fire from SWAT and agents without taking cover. She was legit 20 feet from a couple agents, running away in a straight line, and they missed her. It was ridiculous.
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Also, I'm assuming I missed some important info because how tf did Trinity develop The One powers? And was there a reason NPH was able to freeze/control Neo but not Smith?
I'd probably need to re-watch it but I just don't care enough to do so.
Yeah, I get that it's an action movie and you can't expect hyper realism. But come on...
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No, you didn't miss anything. I think they just went straight for the "She's powerful too!" angle. Which makes no fucking sense, and muddles the running storyline of the past films. There definitely seemed to be an obvious effort to bring more female leadership to the story. Which didn't really work. Niobe was a cunt.
I really hate how the neutered Neo too. When they showed him training with new Morpheus and he destroyed the dojo, I thought that was pretty cool let's see him wreck some shit. But then he's fighting Smith a short time later, and can't even hold his own in the slightest. Like I said earlier, they seemed to change each characters powers depending on how they needed the plot to progress at that moment. Felt cheap and lazy.
Of course, that's ignoring the fact that if they're in a digital environment that the machines control, then the machines would have to program themselves to miss shots.
Originally Posted by Pogue:
Started off promising but lost me after 20-30 minutes realizing this wasn’t a movie to continue the saga.
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I really thought the beginning was promising, looked like we were going to get a look at what the architect was explaining to neo there’s been several versions of him already. I was expecting to see a far more advanced matrix, but not the way the analyst/movie did. So it was odd to see a matrix designed around more feelings and emotion to generate more power from humans considering they threaten the matrix.
The matrix itself is far more interesting than the Zion/To Lo storyline, it’s what killed the third movie. This is where the movie lost me, once it pivoted to reality with Neo escaping his pod by friendly machines, to another Zion like location that was also built by machines. This presents all kinds of issues and plot holes. Machines (Wokies call them synthians) were working with Humans, making strawberries? Assisting in rescues? Dumb. They could be hacked etc threatening everyone in to lo.
Lastly, making trinity the one or similar to neo, destroyed the movie imo and ruined the franchise. Out of nowhere she possesses the same skills as neo? Come on.
To me the movie was a parody of legacy sequels, it was the director mocking moviegoers, telling them to eat this excrement sandwich. Really surprised Keanu signed on to this garbage. 4/10.
Agree with this post 100%. The initial angle they took was original and could have gone to some interesting places but it really is a parody of the earlier movies. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Fish:
Yeah, I get that it's an action movie and you can't expect hyper realism. But come on...
Regarding the spoiler:
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No, you didn't miss anything. I think they just went straight for the "She's powerful too!" angle. Which makes no ****ing sense, and muddles the running storyline of the past films. There definitely seemed to be an obvious effort to bring more female leadership to the story. Which didn't really work. Niobe was a ****.
I really hate how the neutered Neo too. When they showed him training with new Morpheus and he destroyed the dojo, I thought that was pretty cool let's see him wreck some shit. But then he's fighting Smith a short time later, and can't even hold his own in the slightest. Like I said earlier, they seemed to change each characters powers depending on how they needed the plot to progress at that moment. Felt cheap and lazy.
Of course, that's ignoring the fact that if they're in a digital environment that the machines control, then the machines would have to program themselves to miss shots.
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The use of sonic waves was overdone. Neo can wreck a dojo but he can’t take off to fly? Made no sense to me and seemed to me that Agent Smith was the most powerful person in this movie. Your telling me the Analyst could slow down time and Neo couldn’t function, while Agent Smith could? But again, I wouldn’t over analyze this movie. Clearly an F U you anyone that loved the first movie.
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
The fan service in this movie wasn't even all that good.. and that's a huge miss because a sequel like this, nearly 20 years later that no one asked for is going to need some legit ass throwbacks.
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Old ass Niobe, OK. Don't give a shit about her. Someone on the ship is the grandchild of someone on the Nebuchadnezzar, cool. Also don't give a shit. The Indian chick who was the child program from the third one. **** you, don't care.
I was waiting the whole movie for Neo to remember how to use his powers and just lay waste. That moment never came, which sucks because that probably would have been pretty memorable. A few months from now I don't think there's a single scene from this movie that I will remember.
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had no idea why Merv was brought back. He was a parody of the original sequel. All it did for me was remind me how good the characters were in the matrix and how this iteration completely missed out on an opportunity to make the matrix more frightening, controlling etc.
had no idea why Merv was brought back. He was a parody of the original sequel. All it did for me was remind me how good the characters were in the matrix and how this iteration completely missed out on an opportunity to make the matrix more frightening, controlling etc.
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Oh, I forgot about the Merovingian. I did actually chuckle a bit when they brought him in so I’ll give them that..
They really should have brought back Monica Bellucci though. She is so fucking fine.
Oh, I forgot about the Merovingian. I did actually chuckle a bit when they brought him in so I’ll give them that..
They really should have brought back Monica Bellucci though. She is so ****ing fine.
She made the matrix reloaded, and again, the matrix itself was far more interesting. The reason why revolutions was bad as it was because it spent way too much time on Zion.
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
This sounds like a total piece of garbage, thanks for the heads up
This. I've come to trust the CP consensus on movies like these over the years. I was planning on seeing this Christmas night, but maybe I'll just go get drunk instead. Sounds like a better payoff, really. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Don't let my comments deter you. I always recommend watching to see for yourself.
I'll just say: if you were expecting something groundbreaking on par with the original, dial back your expectations and you might enjoy it.
My only expectations are that the story will be covered in plot armor and the CGI will be terrific.
And those were my expectations before reading any comments. I don't mind dumb movies so long as they're visually appealing enough to capture the imagination. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pogue:
She made the matrix reloaded, and again, the matrix itself was far more interesting. The reason why revolutions was bad as it was because it spent way too much time on Zion.
Also regarding Agent Smith in Ressurections:
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Its Mr Anderson, not TOM. WTF was that?
To be fair, that picture is probably 20+ yrs old.
Monica Bellucci is damn near 60 years old these days and has gotten pretty 'angular' as she's aged. I mean still a damn dime for being in her late 50s, but very clearly in her late 50s.
But yeah, it's about damn near impossible to be any hotter than she was in Malena. Late 90s/early 200s Monica Bellucci was pretty near perfection. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
To be fair, that picture is probably 20+ yrs old.
Monica Bellucci is damn near 60 years old these days and has gotten pretty 'angular' as she's aged. I mean still a damn dime for being in her late 50s, but very clearly in her late 50s.
But yeah, it's about damn near impossible to be any hotter than she was in Malena. Late 90s/early 200s Monica Bellucci was pretty near perfection.
That Monica Bellucci is one hot piece of ace, I know from experience dude, you know what I mean?
