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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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kccrow 02:31 PM 01-29-2022
Just thought you should know that Kellen Diesch checked in at the Shrine game with 32.5" arms. That's pretty short to stay at tackle. I'm thinking he moves inside to LG.
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duncan_idaho 04:14 PM 01-29-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Just thought you should know that Kellen Diesch checked in at the Shrine game with 32.5" arms. That's pretty short to stay at tackle. I'm thinking he moves inside to LG.

Dang it. Yeah, that toasts that idea. Is the Smith kid from Tulsa playing at one of these all-star events?
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Chris Meck 12:53 PM 01-30-2022
I did something a little different this time.

First, I took a trade down in the first, picking up #40 and #75.

Then I decided to concentrate on the front 7 early to aim for dominance in two position groups, D-line and LB corps.

KC
40.
Perrion Winfrey
DT Oklahoma- Chris Jones 2, electric boogaloo.
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KC
64.
Myjai Sanders
EDGE Cincinnati-elite size and athleticism at DE

KC
75.
Nik Bonitto
EDGE Oklahoma- a Micah Parsons type chess piece for Spags. Can play SAM OR WILL, flipping with Gay on early downs, and is a plus pass rusher allowing for huge scheme versatility.

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KC
97.
Alec Pierce
WR Cincinnati-a big X receiver with big time potential.
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KC
134.
Yusuf Corker
S Kentucky-finally, we can get rid of Sorensen. a big hitting box safety.

KC
177.
Christian Watson
WR North Dakota State- 6'5", 208 and runs a 4.4? Huge talent upside.
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KC
232.
Kyler McMichael
CB North Carolina- a developmental corner with press man skills.
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tmax63 10:42 AM 01-31-2022
I'm not a draft guy so take it for what it's worth. I like a D heavy draft but I want some early round CB's and safeties. The Chiefs have been churning the trash pile for too long for DBs and it shows up against the better teams with guys getting 150-200 yds in a game. Guys don't end up in the trash heap/cut list without reason. Sure, you can salvage one once in a while but when you end up where they are now. If you only eat sirloin for long enough then you don't realize what a t-bone looks like.
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duncan_idaho 04:07 PM 01-31-2022
Notables from the senior bowl measurement releases:

Southern Utah OT prospect Braxton Jones checks in at 6-5 with 36" arms (INTERESTING!)

Kinglsey Enagbare (South Carolina DE) 6-4/265 with 35" arms

And in a crushing measurement for his NFL T hopes, Bernhard Raimannn measures just 33" arms.

Lot of borderline Ts revealed today.
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Chris Meck 06:18 PM 01-31-2022
Originally Posted by tmax63:
I'm not a draft guy so take it for what it's worth. I like a D heavy draft but I want some early round CB's and safeties. The Chiefs have been churning the trash pile for too long for DBs and it shows up against the better teams with guys getting 150-200 yds in a game. Guys don't end up in the trash heap/cut list without reason. Sure, you can salvage one once in a while but when you end up where they are now. If you only eat sirloin for long enough then you don't realize what a t-bone looks like.
guys get yardage like that because your front four sucks donkey balls and can't get consistent pressure.
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kccrow 08:35 PM 01-31-2022
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Notables from the senior bowl measurement releases:

Southern Utah OT prospect Braxton Jones checks in at 6-5 with 36" arms (INTERESTING!)

Kinglsey Enagbare (South Carolina DE) 6-4/265 with 35" arms

And in a crushing measurement for his NFL T hopes, Bernhard Raimannn measures just 33" arms.

Lot of borderline Ts revealed today.
Braxton Jones is my guy for a sleeper tackle man. We'll see how he plays but I have been tracking him.

Enegbare is a guy that I think ends up a much better pro than college player but there are varying opinions on him with merit.

I don't know if that crushes Raimann. Slater checked in at 33" last year. Anything under that though has traditionally been a no-go zone.
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Titty Meat 09:55 PM 01-31-2022
Don't know what the cap will look like when it's all said and done but I wouldn't mind trading that 2 for an established pass rusher
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CatfishBob2 12:40 AM 02-01-2022
30.
Jaquan Brisker
S, Penn State

62.
Arnold Ebiketie
EDGE, Penn State

94.
Cam Taylor-Britt
CB, Nebraska

131.
Brian Asamoah
LB, Oklahoma

190.
Tre Turner
WR, Virginia Tech

229.
D'Vonte Price
RB, Florida International

239.
Leon O'Neal Jr.
S, Texas A&M

247.
Velus Jones Jr.
WR, Tennesee
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kccrow 08:05 PM 02-07-2022
TDN today... just gonna smash QBs and throw bombs

30.

Kansas City Chiefs
Garrett Wilson
WR, Ohio State
62.

Kansas City Chiefs
Cameron Thomas
EDGE, San Diego State
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
Sam Williams
EDGE, Ole Miss
102.

Kansas City Chiefs
Justyn Ross
WR, Clemson
133.

Kansas City Chiefs
Eyioma Uwazurike
IDL, Iowa State
189.

Kansas City Chiefs
Ty Chandler
RB, North Carolina
230.

Kansas City Chiefs
Jeremiah Gemmel
LB, North Carolina
240.

Kansas City Chiefs
Isaac Taylor-Stuart
CB, USC
248.

Kansas City Chiefs
Ben Stille
EDGE, Nebraska
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Titty Meat 09:04 PM 02-07-2022
If we end up with Crows draft this team is winning the next 3 super bowls
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duncan_idaho 09:30 PM 02-07-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
TDN today... just gonna smash QBs and throw bombs

30.

Kansas City Chiefs
Garrett Wilson
WR, Ohio State
62.

Kansas City Chiefs
Cameron Thomas
EDGE, San Diego State
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
Sam Williams
EDGE, Ole Miss
102.

Kansas City Chiefs
Justyn Ross
WR, Clemson
133.

Kansas City Chiefs
Eyioma Uwazurike
IDL, Iowa State
189.

Kansas City Chiefs
Ty Chandler
RB, North Carolina
230.

Kansas City Chiefs
Jeremiah Gemmel
LB, North Carolina
240.

Kansas City Chiefs
Isaac Taylor-Stuart
CB, USC
248.

Kansas City Chiefs
Ben Stille
EDGE, Nebraska
Oh, I wish it were possible. This is ideal.
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duncan_idaho 09:46 PM 02-07-2022
Speaking of "I wish it was possible" here's a quickie from PFF:

1.32 > 2.36, 3.68

2.36 - Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State
2.62 - John Metchie III, WR, Albama
3.68 - Jalen Pitre, DB, Baylor
3.94 - Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota
3.103 - Marcus Jones, CB, Houston
4.132 - James Cook, RB, Georiga
6.192 - Tyler Smith, T, Tulsa
7.229 - Jelani Woods, TE, Virginia
7.239 - Jarrett Patterson, C, Notre Dame
7.247 - Merlin Robertson, LB, Arizona State
7.254 - Velus Jones, Jr., WR, Tennessee

I know I went a little aggressive on Metchie and wouldn't do it without the extra pick in the 60s acquired by trading down.

This includes a super-high upside double dip at DE, a potential future building block at WR, additional help at CB, a speedy receiving back to upgrade the RB room, and a bunch of depth.
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Chief Roundup 10:07 PM 02-07-2022
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Speaking of "I wish it was possible" here's a quickie from PFF:

1.32 > 2.36, 3.68

2.36 - Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State
2.62 - John Metchie III, WR, Albama
3.68 - Jalen Pitre, DB, Baylor
3.94 - Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota
3.103 - Marcus Jones, CB, Houston
4.132 - James Cook, RB, Georiga
6.192 - Tyler Smith, T, Tulsa
7.229 - Jelani Woods, TE, Virginia
7.239 - Jarrett Patterson, C, Notre Dame
7.247 - Merlin Robertson, LB, Arizona State
7.254 - Velus Jones, Jr., WR, Tennessee

I know I went a little aggressive on Metchie and wouldn't do it without the extra pick in the 60s acquired by trading down.

This includes a super-high upside double dip at DE, a potential future building block at WR, additional help at CB, a speedy receiving back to upgrade the RB room, and a bunch of depth.
Jermaine Johnson is likely a top 15 pick. I doubt that Pitre makes it to let alone that far past our 2cd round pick.
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staylor26 11:32 PM 02-07-2022
4 round TDN Mock:

30. Chris Olave, WR, Ohio St.

62. Myjai Sanders, EDGE, Cincinnati

94. Sam Williams, EDGE, Ole Miss

102. Chad Muma, LB, Wyoming

133. Dameon Pierce, RB, Florida
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