This thread will be up there with the ones about firing Reid or taking whatever bumfudge QB over Mahomes in a couple years.

Bigger questions:

- Who plays RT
- Do they make a big splash at WR
- Is Gray a legit potential successor to Kelce or do they look at that again
- Is there a better, younger backup QB available that makes financial sense
- What the heck do they do at DE
- Which pending UFAs of their own do they sign to reasonable deals
- Is Badger still here next year, and if not, they need to fill a hole at safety
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I think Shane Buechele is the heir to Henne as the back-up next year. Henne most likely is done.
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For what it's worth, even Trent Williams wasn't Trent Fucking Williams until he was about 28 years old. Fisher didn't really find his form until he was around 27.

The aging curve on tackles, all across the spectrum of ability, is just a little more graduated than many would like.

Brown probably isn't a finished product, fellas. He's 25 years old and in only his 4th year in the league. There's reason to believe he'll continue to get better for another year or two. In the interim, he's a solid LT.

Still seems odd to me how often CP blasts away at their LTs. Did a few years of Willie Roaf really mind-fuck y'all that badly? Is your perspective that shot that you can't acknowledge when a player is merely good at his job? Because Brown is.

EDIT: I see Maqe has already said this. Carry on, lads.
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Yeah, but that's highly irregular. Just like Bahktiari in the 4th was a lottery winning ticket. or Brady in the 6th. It just happens so very rarely.

Top flight LT's are really hard to find. Better than average LT's are hard to find. I think Brown is at least that, don't you? And he's 25, and he's already here.

Now, if you don't want to pay him, you're gonna have to pay someone. We don't have time to develop a prospect. We're in a SB window.

Pay him or pay someone else is really the decision.
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yeah, I really don't think people realize just how good Willie Roaf was.

So good, that a career journeyman running back became a record setting star running sweeps left when everyone in the stadium knew it was coming.

Roaf was the best I ever saw, and I'm about to turn 50, and I've watched football since the '78 SB.

There was nothing like him. He was entirely dominant.
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This is a critical point.

Another Travis Kelce is almost certainly not walking through that door. Another Tyreek Hill is more than likely not walking through that door. Right now we have 3 years left (give or take a year) with those 2 guys being difference makers.

Can't fuck around wasting one of 'em hoping that you stumble onto Larry Borom in the 5th. And you DEFINITELY can't pretend you're likely to get a legitimate upgrade on Brown with that (even Borom isn't; he's really a RT more than anything).

That's just the way of it.
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Yeah - he just cannot be the standard we hold OL to. If we're going to hold people to the standard of great players, can we at least be reasonable about it? I dunno - how 'bout Matt Light? Is anybody really going to argue that Jason Peters has the feet of a ballerina? Or that OBJ can't someday be just as good as Peters has been? That's exactly the sort of player that Brown should be (is) modeling his game after. And there's a pretty strong argument to be made that the best version of Peters came under Reids tutelage in Philly.

And fellas, those are GREAT players. He can be really really really good and not be as good as those guys. But even those guys are more reasonable than "if he ain't Roaf, we need to upgrade!!!"
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It's not that you can't ever replace him with a low first round pick.

It's that you're really playing with fire by doing that. We're bitching about Brown's level of play in his first year in this new offense, so how do you think a goddamn rookie is going to fare? We're counting on him matching or exceeding Brown's playing level from this season in his rookie year, because at this point every precious season we can squeeze from this era of Mahomes weapons (Tyreek, Kelce) can't be wasted.

We did fine with Brown. No, it's not a given he'll keep improving. It's also not a given the rookie will work out. And I don't think we should be snubbing our noses at what Brown can do for you (heh) in favor of a bigger unknown in some rando ass hat rookie.
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I said it before and I'll say it again:

Almost all of the guys talked about this time last year were either 1. bad at LT or 2. moved to RT or even guard.

We're not getting a LT in the draft. It's not going to happen.

If they're not going to tag or sign Brown, they're going to be trading for someone most likely.

Do we really want to have another draft with no 1st round pick?
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All for tagging. Against signing to long term deal.
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Idiot.
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I love you.
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You know why KC went after Trent Williams and when they didn't get him they went after Orlando Brown Jr.? Because in spite of a draft that had a lot of projected high end LTs, they were all gone well before KC picked. What are the chances of KC nabbing a high end one in a draft that isn't loaded with LT prospects? Having a first like you are talking about doesn't carry as much weight as say Detroit having a first.

As long as we have Mahomes/Reid, barring injuries we will never draft high enough to get a blue chip LT prospect. In order to move up enough to get one we would get raped in picks. For a team like this, we can't afford to give up those picks. Elite LTs, much like Franchise QBs rarely hit the market. Teams don't trade them. The only reason Brown Jr. Was available was because Baltimore had an elite LT, Stanley, there. Tagging him is a poor idea because it makes resigning him later more expensive and it takes away a tag we could have used on someone else.

The chances of us getting a better LT than him is small and the risk/reward of trying to draft his replacement is not worth it.
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I suspect the Chiefs will take the known - Brown being a solidly above-average NFL left tackle who does have some weaknesses to his game and who can still improve - over rolling the dice with a rookie or new acquisition.

I think it's a good draft for them to try to upgrade their swing tackle spot with a promising rookie they land in round 3 or 4, with the idea of at least upgrading RT after next year with that player. Hoping they flash like Spencer Brown or Walker Little after some adjustment.
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He had the same issues with Fisher.
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