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chiefzilla1501 11:06 PM 12-04-2022
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Tyreek doesn't make them unbeatable. The problems in the trenches were there with Tyreek on the roster.
for the record I think mahomes became a better qb without tyreek so I don’t really regret the move. That being said, we are unbeatable with tyreek and the new version of mahomes. Hell, we are a way different team next time we play cincy with a healthy Toney and hardman. if we knew tyreek was gone we could have been more aggressive about some of the big name WRs who hit the market. The lateness in losing him screwed us.

We’ve always been outmatched in the trenches on offense. It hasn’t stopped us before. Juju was the guy we badly needed last year to play off tyreek. We are way better now with Pacheco. We would be lethal with our new TE toys. Of course it would be nice to have better OL play. But we aren’t as reliant as other teams are. We’ve made three straight afc championships even when we had trenches WAY worse than what we have now.
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DRM08 11:32 PM 12-04-2022
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
for the record I think mahomes became a better qb without tyreek so I don’t really regret the move. That being said, we are unbeatable with tyreek and the new version of mahomes. Hell, we are a way different team next time we play cincy with a healthy Toney and hardman. if we knew tyreek was gone we could have been more aggressive about some of the big name WRs who hit the market. The lateness in losing him screwed us.

We’ve always been outmatched in the trenches on offense. It hasn’t stopped us before. Juju was the guy we badly needed last year to play off tyreek. We are way better now with Pacheco. We would be lethal with our new TE toys. Of course it would be nice to have better OL play. But we aren’t as reliant as other teams are. We’ve made three straight afc championships even when we had trenches WAY worse than what we have now.
I'm talking about both sides of the trenches. OL & DL both have been lacking physical toughness for years. Tyreek doesn't fix those problems. This team needs to get a hell of a lot tougher up front, on both sides of the ball. Not gonna happen overnight.
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Fish 10:05 PM 12-04-2022
This starts at the top. Fire the Clarks.
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Oh Snap 10:11 PM 12-04-2022
Not pointing fingers. But if kelce doesn't lose that ball...what are the odds of us scoring and controlling the rest of the game? Big players have bad games. Kelce had his first bad game in years. It happens. These guys are human afterall. That turnover was costly tho. That's what contributed most for our loss.
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wbbonneriii 10:19 PM 12-04-2022
Originally Posted by Oh Snap:
Not pointing fingers. But if kelce doesn't lose that ball...what are the odds of us scoring and controlling the rest of the game? Big players have bad games. Kelce had his first bad game in years. It happens. These guys are human afterall. That turnover was costly tho. That's what contributed most for our loss.
I understand your point, but if you really watch the game they dominated the line of play and it seems most playoff teams dominate us at the line and you just can't win a trophy not being equal (at worst) to the opposition at line play.
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PurpleJesus28 10:36 PM 12-04-2022
Originally Posted by wbbonneriii:
I understand your point, but if you really watch the game they dominated the line of play and it seems most playoff teams dominate us at the line and you just can't win a trophy not being equal (at worst) to the opposition at line play.
For sure the Bungles did win the trenches today,aside from the Chiefs running the ball well,albeit against light boxes.The Kelce fumble was a pivotal swing of momentum back to them though,if KC scores a td on that drive,you just hope to be far enough ahead to win a potential shootout.

I was hoping by some miracle Kelce's knee was down before he fumbled,or why the refs didnt blow the play dead,he was being gang tackled at that point,but i guess he wouldnt go down.

I just don't get as upset at the Chiefs losses anymore,since theres really nothing as fans we can do.
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PurpleJesus28 10:42 PM 12-04-2022
Oh and FTR...after what Suh got away with on Mahomes in the SB,i think theres not a snowballs chance in hell he'd be welcomed on the Chiefs.I obv. don't make those decisions,and i know he's a good player,but he just plays dirty as hell.
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OKchiefs 10:49 PM 12-04-2022
Originally Posted by PurpleJesus28:
Oh and FTR...after what Suh got away with on Mahomes in the SB,i think theres not a snowballs chance in hell he'd be welcomed on the Chiefs.I obv. don't make those decisions,and i know he's a good player,but he just plays dirty as hell.
KC could use some dirty instead of the soft AF pansies on this team.
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-King- 10:50 PM 12-04-2022
Originally Posted by PurpleJesus28:
Oh and FTR...after what Suh got away with on Mahomes in the SB,i think theres not a snowballs chance in hell he'd be welcomed on the Chiefs.I obv. don't make those decisions,and i know he's a good player,but he just plays dirty as hell.
Suh is on the Eagles now.
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DRM08 10:52 PM 12-04-2022
Originally Posted by PurpleJesus28:
For sure the Bungles did win the trenches today,aside from the Chiefs running the ball well,albeit against light boxes.The Kelce fumble was a pivotal swing of momentum back to them though,if KC scores a td on that drive,you just hope to be far enough ahead to win a potential shootout.

I was hoping by some miracle Kelce's knee was down before he fumbled,or why the refs didnt blow the play dead,he was being gang tackled at that point,but i guess he wouldnt go down.

I just don't get as upset at the Chiefs losses anymore,since theres really nothing as fans we can do.
Kelce tried to go down. One of the Bengal guys held him up and the other Bengal guy went after the ball. They tried to do this later in the game as well, but Kelce was able to get down quicker. He will need to keep this stuff in mind the next time they play these guys. Get down ASAP. Don't even give them a chance to pull those chickenshit moves.
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Imon Yourside 11:04 PM 12-04-2022
Our line play is what's killing us. We really need to move on from Clark and Wylie as well as OBJ. Both lines were not good today and that's ultimately what lost the game.
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OKchiefs 11:06 PM 12-04-2022
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
Our line play is what's killing us. We really need to move on from Clark and Wylie as well as OBJ. Both lines were not good today and that's ultimately what lost the game.
Haven’t been able to add a single difference maker at OT or DE in 5 years, why would anyone have faith that Veach is goito be able to find a LT, RT, and DE all in one offseason?
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Pitt Gorilla 11:34 PM 12-04-2022
Anytime you want to start making fun of other fanbases, remember this thread and others started after this game.
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smithandrew051 11:45 PM 12-04-2022
For whatever issues this team has, it is reassuring to know that we had the ball in Mahomes’s hands late with a chance to win or put it away. That’ll be a positive result more often than not.

In each of the 3 losses, you can circle a few pretty correctable things that didn’t go our way.

Chiefs are still more than capable of winning it all. Get the 1 seed and I’ll feel good about our chances.
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Dull Tools 06:23 AM 12-05-2022
What is he meant to do when we are picking in the 30s every year in the draft. It is really hard to get good lineman at that stage in the draft.

We are always going to stuggle but I do think we should be targetting line now in the first 2/3 rounds of the draft for the next couple of years.
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