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Nzoner's Game Room>Joe "Cool" and being elite? Yeah, no.
mr. tegu 05:54 PM 01-30-2023
I admit I realize I have been overestimating him like many others. He is quite good but elite he is not and he definitely hasn't earned his "cool" moniker. And I have heard multiple pundits now say, even after yesterday he is a better QB than Mahomes, but Mahomes is the better player. Talk about moving the goalposts to fit your narrative.

I will give him credit for the Brady comparison though as he has absolutely been carried by his defense and luck like Brady was in his earlier years in winning playoff games. But Burrow isn't as clutch as Brady was even back then.

And for those who think he is even close to Mahomes:

Burrow 0 times 30 point postseason games to Mahomes 8
300 yard games is 1 to 7
TD drives in fourth quarter is a whopping 0 to 14

Good old Nick Wright has more in the video but here is a picture with the most relevant part of Burrow's fourth quarter stats in the postseason. It's remarkable the Bengals have won any games honestly in the postseason.


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big nasty kcnut 02:20 AM 01-31-2023
there only one joe cool his name is joe montana!
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JPH83 04:12 AM 01-31-2023
He's elite I reckon, and he's shown he can still be elite with poor protection but elite WRs. We'll see at some point if he can do it with protection and JAG WRs, like Mahomes and Brady have done.

As an aside the PFF explanation for his grade vs Mahomes' in that game is pure garbage. Essentially they graded him higher because the INTs were on the WRs and not him. Pure guesswork from what I could read.
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Rasputin 04:29 AM 01-31-2023
Originally Posted by srvy:
:-)
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UK_Chief 04:47 AM 01-31-2023
He’s changing his name to Joe Arrowhead
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scho63 06:12 AM 01-31-2023
They beat us three straight times, including two at Arrowhead, and then we finally win another 3 point game and Joe Burrow isn't elite?

I'm not going to go there. Guy is a baller and plays great.

Let's not get so cocky so soon. That's the mistake the Bengals just made.
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Sassy Squatch 06:19 AM 01-31-2023
Wut? They haven't beaten us twice at Arrowhead
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Chris Meck 06:22 AM 01-31-2023
He's unquestionably elite.

He's unanimously top 3.

That's elite by any reasonable standard.

He has the best ball placement of any QB I've ever seen.
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Chris Meck 01-31-2023, 06:22 AM
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Tribal Warfare 06:24 AM 01-31-2023
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
He's unquestionably elite.

He's unanimously top 3.

That's elite by any reasonable standard.

He has the best ball placement of any QB I've ever seen.
Too young to remember Dan Marino?
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straycash 06:27 AM 01-31-2023
Originally Posted by scho63:
They beat us three straight times, including two at Arrowhead, and then we finally win another 3 point game and Joe Burrow isn't elite?

I'm not going to go there. Guy is a baller and plays great.

Let's not get so cocky so soon. That's the mistake the Bengals just made.
I didn't know fans could change the outcome of a game, maybe one should try it:-)
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ChiefsHawk 06:27 AM 01-31-2023
Can someone explain to me how one can be a better QB but not the better player? That makes no damn sense.
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Tribal Warfare 06:29 AM 01-31-2023
Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk:
Can someone explain to me how one can be a better QB but not the better player? That makes no damn sense.

Orlosky moved goalposts so he's correct either way
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straycash 06:32 AM 01-31-2023
Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk:
Can someone explain to me how one can be a better QB but not the better player? That makes no damn sense.
Brady Ballwashers makes it make sense:-)
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Chris Meck 06:38 AM 01-31-2023
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Too young to remember Dan Marino?
I remember Marino well, and that's a good comp.

Burrow is kind of like Marino with two functioning knees that can move and run.
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RealSNR 07:06 AM 01-31-2023
Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk:
Can someone explain to me how one can be a better QB but not the better player? That makes no damn sense.
The retarded argument goes something like:

Herp derp big brain smart guy stuff that's burrow duhhhhhrrrr athlete who does random shit dat's mahomes duhhhhhh
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mr. tegu 07:07 AM 01-31-2023
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
He's unquestionably elite.

He's unanimously top 3.

That's elite by any reasonable standard.

He has the best ball placement of any QB I've ever seen.

What about the standard of playing well when it matters most? It’s odd to me how easily people want to gloss over his post season (fourth quarter especially) performance so far.
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