ChiefsPlanet Mobile
Page 166 of 170
« First < 66116156162163164165166 167168169170 >
The Gonzo Lounge>The uncomfortable reality that is a fading Tom Brady
Hammock Parties 03:01 PM 10-07-2018
He's done.

Originally Posted by :
Brady's passer rankings the last three years:

2016: 2nd

2017: 3rd

2018: 15th


Yards per attempt?

2016: 2nd

2017: 4th

2018: 23rd


Completion percentage?

2016: 5th

2017: 5th

2018: 12th


Touchdown percentage?

2016: 3rd

2017: 5th

2018: 8th


INT percentage?

2016: 1st

2017: 3rd

2018: 26th


Yards per completion?

2016: 6th

2017: 8th

2018: 28th


Passing yards?

2016: 4th

2017: 1st

2018: 20th


Winning percentage?


2016: .916

2017: .812

2018: .600
Excuses can be made -- have been and will continue to be -- but these numbers are tough to dismiss.
[Reply]
POND_OF_RED 10:08 PM 02-27-2021
Originally Posted by Eureka:
Brady seems to have faded into cementing himself as the greatest QB to ever play the game.

Starting for a new team and coach Brady rallied his 7-5 Bucs team to 8 straight wins becoming a wild card team while capping it off with a SB pounding against the 25-1 SB defending champ Chiefs team who he lost to in week 12 on a short week. Brady also beat the same Chiefs in the AFC Championship game 2 years prior which lead to another SB win.

Mahomes could go on to win more SB than Brady but he will always be compared in a way that he lost to Brady. Hopefully next year Mahomes fans get to see a rematch in the SB.
If we use that simplistic approach is Nick Foles the GOAT? Does Brady have to beat Foles at some point to avenge his failures there? The NFL isnít about QB vs QB matchup or Marino would have a ring. There is a lot of luck that comes into play. Like keeping more than 20% of your starting offensive line healthy for instance. If Mahomes somehow gets 7 or 8 rings there will be no discussion of Brady anymore. If he can get 3-4 more it will turn into a Hank Aaron vs Barry Bonds type of discussion with the real football fans knowing who the better player was and the Brady/Bonds fanboys acting as if the huge asterisks donít even exist.
[Reply]
dlphg9 01:44 AM 02-28-2021
Originally Posted by MAG:
Can anyone tell me anything that Brady did tonight that was remotely special? Hitting a wide open Gronk in the end zone? Alex Smith wins this shit going away too.
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Remember back when I said he wasn't THE problem for the team?

Those problems persist, we just dodged them last year.
In this thread Baby Lee shows how Alexsexual he can be. Alex Smith was 100% THE problem. Since he got sent to Washington 3 years ago this team has won 1 SB, been to 2, and reached the AFC title game the only season they didn't make it to the SB. Alex had 1 playoff win in 5 seasons and in the 3 seasons since we have 6 post season wins.
[Reply]
Baby Lee 02:19 AM 02-28-2021
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
In this thread Baby Lee shows how Alexsexual he can be. Alex Smith was 100% THE problem. Since he got sent to Washington 3 years ago this team has won 1 SB, been to 2, and reached the AFC title game the only season they didn't make it to the SB. Alex had 1 playoff win in 5 seasons and in the 3 seasons since we have 6 post season wins.
Mahomes covers a multitude of ills.

You even cited the point that a wildcard team beat our ass silly with a completely 'Alexian' performance from the GOAT.

I can understand being really excited about just the QB position, particularly with Mahomes as that QB. But I can't understand the utter apathy about the mediocrity of the other 50-odd players.

Outside Mahomes and his two top receivers, the Chiefs are closer to 2020 NFCE than championship level. It's like Lebron in Cleveland, the early years.

Saying 'Alex wasn't the problem' isn't praise of Alex, it's an assessment of the rest of the team. Maybe that will sink in if the rest of the team ever matters to you.
[Reply]
stevegroganfan 01:09 AM 03-05-2021
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
In this thread Baby Lee shows how Alexsexual he can be. Alex Smith was 100% THE problem. Since he got sent to Washington 3 years ago this team has won 1 SB, been to 2, and reached the AFC title game the only season they didn't make it to the SB. Alex had 1 playoff win in 5 seasons and in the 3 seasons since we have 6 post season wins.
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
In this thread Baby Lee shows how Alexsexual he can be. Alex Smith was 100% THE problem. Since he got sent to Washington 3 years ago this team has won 1 SB, been to 2, and reached the AFC title game the only season they didn't make it to the SB. Alex had 1 playoff win in 5 seasons and in the 3 seasons since we have 6 post season wins.
Look at the Chiefs record before Alex Smith joined the team. 7-9 2 seasons before and then 2-14 the year before Smith joined. Mahomes joined a much better team.

2 of Smith's playoff losses were by 1 point including a game where the Chiefs scored 44 points.

Mahomes is better than Alex Smith but Smith not even at his best only really got 1 year of THill being THill.

And despite starting that season at 33 and Chiefs receiving core still not at its peak, he had the best passer rating of his career at 104.7.

While Smith wasn't paid a ton, it helped KC that Mahomes was on his rookie deal so he has been a low percentage of the cap for a while.

Whether he won it or not, who knows but if Alex Smith had this roster from let's say 28-30 years old, I wouldn't bet against him making at least one Super Bowl in the last 3 years.
[Reply]
New World Order 01:44 AM 03-05-2021
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
Look at the Chiefs record before Alex Smith joined the team. 7-9 2 seasons before and then 2-14 the year before Smith joined. Mahomes joined a much better team.

2 of Smith's playoff losses were by 1 point including a game where the Chiefs scored 44 points.

Mahomes is better than Alex Smith but Smith not even at his best only really got 1 year of THill being THill.

And despite starting that season at 33 and Chiefs receiving core still not at its peak, he had the best passer rating of his career at 104.7.

While Smith wasn't paid a ton, it helped KC that Mahomes was on his rookie deal so he has been a low percentage of the cap for a while.

Whether he won it or not, who knows but if Alex Smith had this roster from let's say 28-30 years old, I wouldn't bet against him making at least one Super Bowl in the last 3 years.
:-)
[Reply]
RealSNR 07:12 AM 03-05-2021
Originally Posted by Eureka:
Brady seems to have faded into cementing himself as the greatest QB to ever play the game.

Starting for a new team and coach Brady rallied his 7-5 Bucs team to 8 straight wins becoming a wild card team while capping it off with a SB pounding against the 25-1 SB defending champ Chiefs team who he lost to in week 12 on a short week. Brady also beat the same Chiefs in the AFC Championship game 2 years prior which lead to another SB win.

Mahomes could go on to win more SB than Brady but he will always be compared in a way that he lost to Brady. Hopefully next year Mahomes fans get to see a rematch in the SB.

What? :-)

Do we care that Jordan lost to Bird and Magic all the time?
[Reply]
SuperBowl4 07:16 AM 03-05-2021
Originally Posted by jdubya:
So has Brady faded or not?
Not as long as the NFL and their Ref's having anything to say about it.
[Reply]
crayzkirk 07:47 AM 03-05-2021
I can't believe people are so obsessed with someone that they supposedly dislike immensely...

The Bucs won, the Chiefs lost. Mostly because of the Chiefs Offensive line problems vs the Bucs lack of Defensive line problems. And other circumstances beyond the players control.

Mahomes can make up for a lot of problems, running for almost 500 yards trying to find someone open while those persons let the ball hit them in the facemask or simply drop it certainly didn't help.

it's over, go home.
[Reply]
ThaVirus 07:52 AM 03-05-2021
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
Look at the Chiefs record before Alex Smith joined the team. 7-9 2 seasons before and then 2-14 the year before Smith joined. Mahomes joined a much better team.

2 of Smith's playoff losses were by 1 point including a game where the Chiefs scored 44 points.

Mahomes is better than Alex Smith but Smith not even at his best only really got 1 year of THill being THill.

And despite starting that season at 33 and Chiefs receiving core still not at its peak, he had the best passer rating of his career at 104.7.

While Smith wasn't paid a ton, it helped KC that Mahomes was on his rookie deal so he has been a low percentage of the cap for a while.

Whether he won it or not, who knows but if Alex Smith had this roster from let's say 28-30 years old, I wouldn't bet against him making at least one Super Bowl in the last 3 years.
Alex had a superior roster during his prime with the 49ers and didn't go to a Super Bowl.

In all honesty, those 2011, 2012 49ers teams might have been better than the 2019, 2020 Chiefs. They were loaded. Probably some of the best squads of the decade.
[Reply]
stevieray 09:23 AM 03-05-2021
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Alex had a superior roster during his prime with the 49ers and didn't go to a Super Bowl.

In all honesty, those 2012, 2012 49ers teams might have been better than the 2019, 2020 Chiefs. They were loaded. Probably some of the best squads of the decade.
Alex Smith had the good fortune of how many OC's in his prime years in SF?
[Reply]
ThaVirus 10:00 AM 03-05-2021
Originally Posted by stevieray:
Alex Smith had the good fortune of how many OC's in his prime years in SF?
He had quite a few early on. His shitty play contributed to the turnover, no doubt.

The guy had all the consistency and stability in the world from 2011-2017 and he went 2-5 in the postseason with three one-and-dones.

Meanwhile basically a rookie Mahomes came in and took a perennial Wild Card loser team straight to the AFCCG in his first year starting, then the Super Bowl the following two seasons.

Mahomes is amazing and everything, but Smith is just an average QB. There's no other way to slice it.
[Reply]
stevegroganfan 10:25 AM 03-05-2021
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Alex had a superior roster during his prime with the 49ers and didn't go to a Super Bowl.

In all honesty, those 2012, 2012 49ers teams might have been better than the 2019, 2020 Chiefs. They were loaded. Probably some of the best squads of the decade.
Only for 2 years and 1 playoffs with Smith starting did he have anywhere close to super bowl talent on the team. Remember Smith was #1 pick of the draft and went to a pathetic 2-14 Niners team needing everything.

In one of those years (2012) , in a very controversial decision he lost his starting job halfway through the season even with a 70% completion rate after a concussion.

In the prior year, Niners with Smith at helm lost by 3 points in OT (20-17) in 2nd round of playoffs to a really good Giants team that won the Super Bowl over the Patriots. Giants regular season record that year a bit deceiving due to injuries. Smith outplayed Manning in terms of passing rating (97 to 82) but his team let him down. Giants scored 10 of their points from Niners screwup/fumbles on special teams.

And just to get there, Smith beat a Drew Brees led team. Smith had 3 passing TDs, 0 interceptions and 1 rushing TD in a 36-32 point win.

Niners for 2 years did have teams capable of winning the Super Bowl but their skill position players on offense were not as good as the Chiefs. Teams built differently.

But Smith played excellent in the playoffs, the only year he had a good team with the Niners and even played. His passing rating was over 100 in those playoffs.

The other year, Smith didn't have the chance to play in the playoffs in a truly very controversial decision Smith was benched for CK after Smith had a concussion halfway through the season. Both quarterbacks were playing at a high level.

So, in reality Smith just had 1 year in San Francisco when he had a chance and a special teams player let him down.
[Reply]
Hammock Parties 10:31 AM 03-05-2021
no one cares about alex

he only has relevance because he broke himself
[Reply]
ThaVirus 10:48 AM 03-05-2021
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
Only for 2 years and 1 playoffs with Smith starting did he have anywhere close to super bowl talent on the team. Remember Smith was #1 pick of the draft and went to a pathetic 2-14 Niners team needing everything.

In one of those years (2012) , in a very controversial decision he lost his starting job halfway through the season even with a 70% completion rate after a concussion.

In the prior year, Niners with Smith at helm lost by 3 points in OT (20-17) in 2nd round of playoffs to a really good Giants team that won the Super Bowl over the Patriots. Giants regular season record that year a bit deceiving due to injuries. Smith outplayed Manning in terms of passing rating (97 to 82) but his team let him down. Giants scored 10 of their points from Niners screwup/fumbles on special teams.

And just to get there, Smith beat a Drew Brees led team. Smith had 3 passing TDs, 0 interceptions and 1 rushing TD in a 36-32 point win.

Niners for 2 years did have teams capable of winning the Super Bowl but their skill position players on offense were not as good as the Chiefs. Teams built differently.

But Smith played excellent in the playoffs, the only year he had a good team with the Niners and even played. His passing rating was over 100 in those playoffs.

The other year, Smith didn't have the chance to play in the playoffs in a truly very controversial decision Smith was benched for CK after Smith had a concussion halfway through the season. Both quarterbacks were playing at a high level.

So, in reality Smith just had 1 year in San Francisco when he had a chance and a special teams player let him down.
Uh, thanks for the history lesson that I already knew..

Piss on completion percentage and piss on passer rating. Alex was my team's starting QB for 5 seasons. He plays like a pussy and that lends itself to closing out games with a high passer rating, meanwhile the offense only scores 18 points or some shit. That's classic Alex Smith.

He had a Super Bowl roster in 2011 and didn't make it beyond the Divisional Round. He had a Super Bowl roster in 2012 and got his ass benched for the better option at the time. 2014 he had a top 5 scoring defense and missed the playoffs, thanks in large part to not being able to throw a single TD pass to a WR all season long (pussy shit). 2016 he went one-and-done at home against a Steelers team that didn't score a TD. 2017 he went one-and-done against a weak Titans team in which he didn't lead the offense to a single point in the 2nd half.

His style of play is great for being average. He's truly really good at not getting in the way, which leads to a lot of regular season wins. He doesn't elevate the players around him consistently against the best teams which is why he had us trapped in Wild Card purgatory for five seasons.
[Reply]
crispystl 11:40 AM 03-05-2021
We had other QBs before Mahomes? Who knew?
[Reply]
Page 166 of 170
« First < 66116156162163164165166 167168169170 >
Up