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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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eazyb81 03:31 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade:
Finebaum has a national radio show I listen to on Sirius and Rivals Radio has Bill King, as well. From the callers to those shows to the inflections they give about Arkansas and its place in the SEC leads me to believe they regard Arkansas as an outlier more than any other school in the SEC.
OK I will grant you Finebaum but he seems to be a complete Bama homer that everyone else hates. I've only listened to him 2 or 3 times and found him fairly annoying.
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Bambi 03:38 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Pinkel left the MAC to coach a better team. Gill left the MAC to coach a team that couldn't win the MAC.

Dude was 3-5 at Buffalo, and that was the best. Coach you could get. He had a winning percentage of .400 in the MAC, and its .333 with KU. He'll likely finish this season with a career record of 5-19 at KU. History totally awaits, though.
Doesn't change it. Sorry. For having such shitty results lately you sure like to talk a lot of shit.

2009 Texas Bowl LOSS to Navy 13-35
2010 Insight Bowl LOSS to Iowa 24-27 (with most of Iowa team suspended)

Gary Pinkel = 1 MAC Championship (59 years old)

Turner Gill = 1 MAC Championship (49 years old)
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Pants 03:39 PM 09-26-2011
Holy shit, Gary Pinkel does not look like a 60 year old.
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Stewie 03:39 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by HemiEd:
Agree, not every coach can be a Bill Snyder. I hope that man lives to be a 100.
Bill Snyder is probably the best football coach at any level in the past 25 years. He's playing chess when everyone else is playing checkers.
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Rams Fan 03:39 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
Doesn't change it. Sorry. For having such shitty results lately you sure like to talk a lot of shit.

2009 Texas Bowl LOSS to Navy 13-35
2010 Insight Bowl LOSS to Iowa 24-27 (with most of Iowa team suspended)

Gary Pinkel = 1 MAC Championship (59 years old)

Turner Gill = 1 MAC Championship (49 years old)
Cool.
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|Zach| 03:40 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
Doesn't change it. Sorry. For having such shitty results lately you sure like to talk a lot of shit.
Handful of teams have won 40 games over the span of the past 4 years. Even so nobody is satisfied and we haven't peaked.

But hey...you got a dramatic win against NIU so there is that.
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Titty Meat 03:42 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Did someone claim he would?
Wickedson suggested it after the big NIU win.
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DJ's left nut 03:43 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by Stewie:
Bill Snyder is probably the best football coach at any level in the past 25 years. He's playing chess when everyone else is playing checkers.
Wait...what?

Yeah - that Belichick guy's nothing compared to Bill Snyder.

I think Snyder's a heck of a coach and probably one of the top 20 guys in the FBS, but that right there is a textbook example of overplaying the hell out of your hand.
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Titty Meat 03:46 PM 09-26-2011
Snyder is top 10.
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Pants 03:47 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini:
Wickedson suggested it after the big NIU win.
IIRC it was a conditional statement. Not that I would expect you to grasp such a nuance, but, dang, you really attached yourself to it like a leach, didn't you?
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Frazod 03:48 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
IIRC it was a conditional statement. Not that I would expect you to grasp such a nuance, but, dang, you really attached yourself to it like a leach, didn't you?
Wickedson always brings out the best in people.
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Titty Meat 03:48 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
IIRC it was a conditional statement. Not that I would expect you to grasp such a nuance, but, dang, you really attached yourself to it like a leach, didn't you?
To even suggest Webb and the Heisman in the same sentence is absurd but please continue to be a miserable prick. You are a KU fan after all.
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Bambi 03:49 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by |Zach|:
Handful of teams have won 40 games over the span of the past 4 years. Even so nobody is satisfied and we haven't peaked.

But hey...you got a dramatic win against NIU so there is that.
It was pretty fun.
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Bambi 03:50 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
IIRC it was a conditional statement. Not that I would expect you to grasp such a nuance, but, dang, you really attached yourself to it like a leach, didn't you?
Getting weird right?
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|Zach| 03:51 PM 09-26-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
IIRC it was a conditional statement. Not that I would expect you to grasp such a nuance, but, dang, you really attached yourself to it like a leach, didn't you?
We all understood it. It isn't less silly.
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