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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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duncan_idaho 07:14 AM 04-05-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Still waiting on that answer if any good player was still at the same level after their Achilles rupture?

Iím genuinely curious bc I donít see anyone. And that worries me with Ojabo. I donít get taking him when so many other guys like Cam Thomas will be there

Iím sure there are examples.

Iím not sure if any of those are guys whose success is so reliant on quick twitch explosion as Ojabo, though.

Iím out on him unless he falls to the end of the 2nd. Not worth the risk at one of the top 3 picks.
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RunKC 07:27 AM 04-05-2022
And it really depends what the board looks like. At this point I’d trade our earliest 4th or a pick swap for Bradberry, trade 62 for McLaurin if he signs an extension with us.

I’d also likely take a trade down from 30 to get another 3rd (if possible).

Man if we can get McLaurin then we can attack our defensive needs with 3 picks in the top 50
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SAGA45 07:33 AM 04-05-2022
Originally Posted by emaw1979:

13. (via trade 29/62/103 and next year's 2nd) Jermaine Johnson
EDGE Florida
I think 10-15 is a sweet range for the Chiefs to move into if they traded up, especially to 11. There, they'd be guaranteed a top-3 player at a position of need (EDGE, DT, WR, CB).

There could even be one of the top-3 offensive tackles there for 'em if contract talks with OBJ stall or go south. It's unlikely they move up that far but it is something worth considering at this point. Fun to play with in the simulators at least.
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RunKC 08:33 AM 04-05-2022
Trade late 4th for James Bradberry
Trade 62 and 2023 4th for Terry McLaurin

1. Dax Hill S Michigan
1. Cam Thomas DE SDSU
2. Perrion Winfrey DT OU
3. Alontae Taylor CB Tennessee
3. Braxton Jones OT Southern Utah State

Andddd Iím spent
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JPH83 08:57 AM 04-05-2022
Originally Posted by In58men:
Did a quick 3 round mock, thoughts? Iím still learning here.




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Sorry to say but I agree with PFF on their grade of the White pick! I'd say given Ojabo's injury you really want to double up on Edge or get a DT somewhere, possibly both with the 93 and 103 picks - PFF let's you get Sam Williams at that point. Also would double-dip at WR at 62 or possibly get a safety there or with the Flott pick, or go DE. I'd probably go OT after that and I'd still prioritise a second CB, LB, even TE above a RB probably.

Basicall I'd drop the CB, LB and RB picks and have some combo of DE, DT, WR or S
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duncan_idaho 09:23 AM 04-05-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Trade late 4th for James Bradberry
Trade 62 and 2023 4th for Terry McLaurin

1. Dax Hill S Michigan
1. Cam Thomas DE SDSU
2. Perrion Winfrey DT OU
3. Alontae Taylor CB Tennessee
3. Braxton Jones OT Southern Utah State

Andddd Iím spent
If I'm trading a late 4th for Bradberry AND drafting Daxton Hill with one of my 1sts, I probably don't spend a 3rd on a CB. Take more of a developmental guy in the middle rounds.
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staylor26 09:33 AM 04-05-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Still waiting on that answer if any good player was still at the same level after their Achilles rupture?

I’m genuinely curious bc I don’t see anyone. And that worries me with Ojabo. I don’t get taking him when so many other guys like Cam Thomas will be there
That’s because you’re ignoring somebody like Cam Akers because his YPC weren’t good in a small sample size after returning in 6 months. Anybody that actually watched him play can see that he looked healthy though.

There’s also Grant Delpit.

I’m sure there are several other recent examples.
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The Franchise 10:38 AM 04-05-2022
29. Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida
30. Daxton Hill, S, Michigan
50. Cameron Thomas, EDGE, San Diego State
62. Travis Jones, IDL, UConn
94. Greg Dulcich, TE, UCLA
103. Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati
121. Isaiah Thomas, EDGE, Oklahoma
135. Max Mitchell, OT, Louisiana

Defensive backfield? Fixed.
Defensive line? Ton of talent added.
WR group? Now deeper.
TE to help give Kelce a breather? Done.
RT? Good depth and possible long term starter.

Really I missed out on upgrading the LB spot but it came down to Dulcich or Anderson and I went with the TE.
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Dull Tools 10:39 AM 04-05-2022
What do you think? A very aggressive draft.
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RunKC 10:52 AM 04-05-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Thatís because youíre ignoring somebody like Cam Akers because his YPC werenít good in a small sample size after returning in 6 months. Anybody that actually watched him play can see that he looked healthy though.

Thereís also Grant Delpit.

Iím sure there are several other recent examples.
Grant Delpit seemed okay. But you donít know how guys recover. Look at Juan Thornhill. He was not ready his first year back from his ACL and it was very noticeable. I donít think Ojabo will be near what he could have been this fall bc of that injury. The whole Haglunds bullshit with Eric Berry scares the shit out of me too. Him and DJ went downhill fast after their Achilles.

Why waste the year and take on so much risk when there are other very good prospects like Cam Thomas?

Iím all for risk. Character concerns like Sam Williams but charges dropped? Yeah we good. Standard ACL recovery? We good.

But a back injury, several concussions or Achilles are where I start being risk averse. Especially for a first rd pick.

I just canít justify the pick in the 1st rd.
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duncan_idaho 11:10 AM 04-05-2022
Originally Posted by Dull Tools:
What do you think? A very aggressive draft.
Looks good, though I don't believe Allen is attainable on his own, let alone with that draft capital coming back with him.
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htismaqe 11:47 AM 04-05-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Grant Delpit seemed okay. But you donít know how guys recover. Look at Juan Thornhill. He was not ready his first year back from his ACL and it was very noticeable. I donít think Ojabo will be near what he could have been this fall bc of that injury. The whole Haglunds bullshit with Eric Berry scares the shit out of me too. Him and DJ went downhill fast after their Achilles.

Why waste the year and take on so much risk when there are other very good prospects like Cam Thomas?

Iím all for risk. Character concerns like Sam Williams but charges dropped? Yeah we good. Standard ACL recovery? We good.

But a back injury, several concussions or Achilles are where I start being risk averse. Especially for a first rd pick.

I just canít justify the pick in the 1st rd.
Totally agree.
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staylor26 11:50 AM 04-05-2022
We all assess risks differently.

I’m obviously more of a gambler.

That’s fine.
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kccrow 12:22 PM 04-05-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Still waiting on that answer if any good player was still at the same level after their Achilles rupture?

Iím genuinely curious bc I donít see anyone. And that worries me with Ojabo. I donít get taking him when so many other guys like Cam Thomas will be there
As far as pass rushers, Terrell Suggs is one that came back and continued to produce.

You look at a guy like Robert Mathis though, he had tons of complications and never was the same guy. He played pretty good in rotational duties for two seasons and retired.

There's others that have came back and continued to play well at less explosive positions like Jason Peters.

I don't know though man. The injury is really damning to a player's power and that's a problem for a DE. It's pretty much a kill shot to most RBs and you see that same change of direction then explosion from DEs and LBs. It's the explosion out of a cut that RBs lose and it hurts their ability to hit the small creases in the NFL.

With surgery the way it is and him being so young, I might take a shot in the dark in the 2nd IF the tear isn't really bad. We have no clue just how bad that thing is though.
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htismaqe 12:24 PM 04-05-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
As far as pass rushers, Terrell Suggs is one that came back and continued to produce.

You look at a guy like Robert Mathis though, he had tons of complications and never was the same guy. He played pretty good in rotational duties for two seasons and retired.

There's others that have came back and continued to play well at less explosive positions like Jason Peters.

I don't know though man. The injury is really damning to a player's power and that's a problem for a DE. It's pretty much a kill shot to most RBs and you see that same change of direction then explosion from DEs and LBs. It's the explosion out of a cut that RBs lose and it hurts their ability to hit the small creases in the NFL.

With surgery the way it is and him being so young, I might take a shot in the dark in the 2nd IF the tear isn't really bad. We have no clue just how bad that thing is though.
Suggs was more of a power rusher. Mathis was truly a guy that depended on that first step and once it was gone, he just wasn't the same.
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