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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2022 Royals Season Repository Thread***
ChiefsCountry 11:07 AM 01-01-2022
For all things Royals in 2022. #3 minor league system according to Baseball America. The Bobby Witt era should begin this year. Will Salvy still be the homerun king? How does the glut of infield players work out? Will the young pitchers take the next step?

Free Agents/Trades Acquisitions
Zack Greinke, P
Amir Garrett, P
Taylor Clarke, P

Top 10 Prospects from Baseball America
1. Bobby Witt, SS
2. Asa Lacy, P
3. MJ Melendez, C
4. Nick Pratto, 1B
5. Jackson Kowar, P
6. Kyle Isabel, OF
7. Frank Mozzicato, P
8. Ben Kudrna, P
9. Jonathan Bowlan, P
10. Vinnie Pasquantino, 1B

Duncan's Top Royals Prospects
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Prison Bitch 08:41 AM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
The Royals clearly have a system wide deficiency in developing pitchers, specifically in the control department. And I am sure he is loving struggling like this. But yes, go ahead and give a 23 year old kid one of your juvenile nicknames. Punching down is unbecoming.
Don’t feel bad for him, he got paid $7M to do nothing
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Woogieman 09:03 AM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Mathney and Eldred are gone because of what happened in the first 54.
That, and less than 20,000 in attendance on a Saturday night. Demonstrates how the fans feel about the likeability of the team that was assembled in April, and their confidence level in the current regime.
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KChiefs1 11:36 AM 08-08-2022
David Lesky: Weekend In Review: A Crowded Roster, a Very Rookie Weekend and a Seven Home Game Week

The weekend started with a slight thud, but then featured two of the most fun wins of the year.
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KChiefs1 11:45 AM 08-08-2022
Craig Brown: For the Royals, the future is now

The Royals opened the weekend by celebrating the past but the present is all about the future. And from here, it looks very bright.
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DJ's left nut 11:52 AM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
He's pushing for that status for sure.

Jeff Granger and Jeff Austin also in consideration at this point.

I don't know why the Royals decided to start him back at AA, when he's struggled so much with injuries and control. Even for them, that's hard to understand.
Y'all took a kid who threw 101 in High School back when throwing 100 was still impressive. Colt Griffin? He was a top 10 guy, IIRC - but wasn't a top 3.

Not sure he ever made it to AA.

I didn't realize Lacy was 3rd overall though - yeeikes. That stings. Though if it makes you feel any better, it's looking like the 2020 draft may be a pile of crap. Hassell is really the only guy who was reasonably in the top 5 pick discussion who appears like he may amount to something special. Then there's Walker, but you can't bag on anyone for not taking Walker in the top 10 - nobody had him there.
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Prison Bitch 12:04 PM 08-08-2022
He doesn’t just lack command. Walks are one thing, but it’s all the hit batters that’s so alarming. Might be another Ankiel, altho at least he had one dominant MLB season
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dlphg9 12:58 PM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by poolboy:
you really dont know how it works, do you?
Winning games is good...losing games is bad
Winning games right now is not good. Wtf does it get us?

You're such a clueless idiot, I'm surprised you can even read.
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dlphg9 01:02 PM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by poolboy:
all i keep hearing is fire some guys, keep some guys and hire some guys
what about sign some guys?
Cardinals fans trying to fix our franchise dont have a clue
Who is saying we should keep anyone? Who should we sign? We sure as shit shouldn't be signing any hitters. So what pitchers?

Wtf are you talking about Cardinals fans trying to fix our franchise? You really are retarded, huh?
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ChiefsCountry 01:25 PM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Y'all took a kid who threw 101 in High School back when throwing 100 was still impressive. Colt Griffin? He was a top 10 guy, IIRC - but wasn't a top 3.

Not sure he ever made it to AA.

I didn't realize Lacy was 3rd overall though - yeeikes. That stings. Though if it makes you feel any better, it's looking like the 2020 draft may be a pile of crap. Hassell is really the only guy who was reasonably in the top 5 pick discussion who appears like he may amount to something special. Then there's Walker, but you can't bag on anyone for not taking Walker in the top 10 - nobody had him there.
4th overall actually.
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duncan_idaho 01:37 PM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Y'all took a kid who threw 101 in High School back when throwing 100 was still impressive. Colt Griffin? He was a top 10 guy, IIRC - but wasn't a top 3.

Not sure he ever made it to AA.

I didn't realize Lacy was 3rd overall though - yeeikes. That stings. Though if it makes you feel any better, it's looking like the 2020 draft may be a pile of crap. Hassell is really the only guy who was reasonably in the top 5 pick discussion who appears like he may amount to something special. Then there's Walker, but you can't bag on anyone for not taking Walker in the top 10 - nobody had him there.
Lacy was 4th.

It helps that Austin Martin has been pretty meh, as that was the guy most were annoyed KC passed, but the Royals were also heavily connected to Pete Crow-Armstrong, who is a legit top 50 prospect. Both he and Hassell fit KC's profile well.
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DJ's left nut 02:27 PM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Who is saying we should keep anyone? Who should we sign? We sure as shit shouldn't be signing any hitters. So what pitchers?

Wtf are you talking about Cardinals fans trying to fix our franchise? You really are reeruned, huh?
I believe we're being blamed for the incompetence of Mike Matheny somehow? Or having the temerity to point out same?

{shrug}

Been called out for worse...
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DJ's left nut 02:33 PM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Lacy was 4th.

It helps that Austin Martin has been pretty meh, as that was the guy most were annoyed KC passed, but the Royals were also heavily connected to Pete Crow-Armstrong, who is a legit top 50 prospect. Both he and Hassell fit KC's profile well.
Weren't there some real hit tool issues w/ PCA? Hard to keep track of these guys sometimes, but that was my memory as to the 'knock' on him coming out of the draft.

Then again - Royals don't seem to concern themselves with hit tool issues all that often.

I just remember seeing Hassell and thinking that was a DAMN polished hitter w/ 25+ homer upside. He seemed like a really really safe bet.
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duncan_idaho 02:50 PM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Weren't there some real hit tool issues w/ PCA? Hard to keep track of these guys sometimes, but that was my memory as to the 'knock' on him coming out of the draft.

Then again - Royals don't seem to concern themselves with hit tool issues all that often.

I just remember seeing Hassell and thinking that was a DAMN polished hitter w/ 25+ homer upside. He seemed like a really really safe bet.
He was a toolsy high-school hitter who had not been amazing in the HS season leading up to the draft.
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Prison Bitch 02:59 PM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Y'all took a kid who threw 101 in High School back when throwing 100 was still impressive. Colt Griffin? He was a top 10 guy, IIRC - but wasn't a top 3.

Not sure he ever made it to AA.

I didn't realize Lacy was 3rd overall though - yeeikes. That stings. Though if it makes you feel any better, it's looking like the 2020 draft may be a pile of crap. Hassell is really the only guy who was reasonably in the top 5 pick discussion who appears like he may amount to something special. Then there's Walker, but you can't bag on anyone for not taking Walker in the top 10 - nobody had him there.

Doesn’t work that way. Fans can and should bag on so-called “talent evaluators” who can’t do it. DM is paid to know Walker would be better than Lacy, and the excuse “well everyone in the industry thought….” is a cope.

Remember too that the next year, DM reached for Mozzicato at 7 instead of his projected 40ish. That is the only rebuttal needed to not excuse him for the Lacy disaster
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dlphg9 03:13 PM 08-08-2022
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
You are terribly mistaken if you think that the developmental problems are specifically isolated to the majors. All of our prospects took longer than expected to reach the show despite being older draftees. And none of them achieved, let alone exceeded projections.
We've had absolutely no problem getting results from pitchers in the minors, especially since the 2018 draft. What prospects took too long to get here?

Bubic was 22 when he was called up and had 36 minor league starts.

Singer was 23 when he was called up and had 26 minor league starts.

Lynch and Kowar were 24 when they made their debut and if not for COVID, they may have been called up in 2020 depending on how they did in the minors.
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