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ChiefRocka 11:41 AM 02-15-2013
Bitcoin disrupts gold
Ethereum disrupts financial services
There will be others...



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Bowser 09:56 AM 06-04-2019
^ That's why I haven't pulled the crypto trigger just yet, in a nutshell. My buddy is still urging me to get on the XRP train, though.
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BWillie 11:38 AM 06-04-2019
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
Bitcoin's Rally Masks Uncomfortable Fact: Almost Nobody Uses It

By Olga Kharif | Bloomberg
May 30, 2019, 7:00 PM CDT



Bitcoin has a lingering problem that few people are talking about amid the renewed exuberance of the recent price surge. Hardly anyone is using the world’s largest cryptocurrency for anything beyond speculation.

Data from New York-based blockchain researcher Chainalysis Inc. show that only 1.3% of economic transactions came from merchants in the first four months of 2019, little changed over the boom and bust cycles of the prior two years.

Even though marque companies such as AT&T Inc. now let customers pay with cryptocurrencies, the problem is that few speculators want to use the digital coins to pay for wireless services when the digital asset’s price might surge another 50% in a matter of weeks.

That’s become the main dilemma with the cryptocurrency: Bitcoin needs the hype to attract mass appeal to be considered a viable electronic alternative to money but it has developed a culture of “holders” who advocate accumulation rather than spending.

"Bitcoin economic activity continues to be dominated by exchange trading," Kim Grauer, senior economist at Chainalysis, said in an email.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nobody-uses-it
Well yeah, Bitcoin is a store of value. And there is a great, great reason why people use it. That I'm not going to get into here, but I bet you can just figure it out on your own. People with money like decentralization and (pseudo) anonymity.
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Eleazar 01:27 PM 06-04-2019
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Well yeah, Bitcoin is a store of value. And there is a great, great reason why people use it. That I'm not going to get into here, but I bet you can just figure it out on your own. People with money like decentralization and (pseudo) anonymity.
A store of value has to be able to hold value, or only fools will store value in it. That's the point of the article. It has no use other than speculation.
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Fat Elvis 01:35 PM 06-04-2019
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Well yeah, Bitcoin is a store of value. And there is a great, great reason why people use it. That I'm not going to get into here, but I bet you can just figure it out on your own. People with money like decentralization and (pseudo) anonymity.
If Paul Solotshi Calder Le Roux is the real Satoshi Nakamoto, it goes a long way in explaining the "great, great reason" why people "use it."
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ChiefRocka 05:44 PM 06-04-2019
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
A store of value has to be able to hold value, or only fools will store value in it. That's the point of the article. It has no use other than speculation.




You're right, why would anyone want to store value in this asset
:-)
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-King- 05:48 PM 06-04-2019
Originally Posted by ChiefRocka:



You're right, why would anyone want to store value in this asset
:-)
But it's a currency first....
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ChiefRocka 05:54 PM 06-04-2019
Originally Posted by -King-:
But it's a currency first....
Gold also
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-King- 05:59 PM 06-04-2019
Originally Posted by ChiefRocka:
Nope
"Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency, a form of electronic cash. It is a decentralized digital currency without a central bank or single administrator that can be sent from user to user on the peer-to-peer bitcoin network without the need for intermediaries."


Coulda fooled me.
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ChiefRocka 07:43 PM 06-04-2019
Originally Posted by -King-:
"Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency, a form of electronic cash. It is a decentralized digital currency without a central bank or single administrator that can be sent from user to user on the peer-to-peer bitcoin network without the need for intermediaries."


Coulda fooled me.
Looking like Bitcoin will prove to be a high value settlement network in its current implementation. Should consensus determine an increase in blocksize and some viable layer 2 solutions then sure, maybe someday it can serve as a daily currency but not today or the foreseeable future.
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Eleazar 08:13 PM 06-04-2019
Originally Posted by ChiefRocka:



You're right, why would anyone want to store value in this asset
:-)
Got your savings or retirement funds stored in bitcoin?
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ChiefRocka 04:57 AM 06-05-2019
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
Got your savings or retirement funds stored in bitcoin?
Mortgaged my house back in 2013
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Fat Elvis 06:45 AM 06-05-2019
Originally Posted by ChiefRocka:
Mortgaged my house back in 2013
Nice call. You must have thousands of Bitcoin.
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scho63 06:49 AM 06-05-2019
If you look at Bitcoin as an "asset" in today's market you are a fool.

If you look at it as a way to move money around the world anonymously, that's the real value today.

If it becomes so widely adapted as a "tanker" of stored value with LOW volatility, then it will be more widely looked at as an "asset".
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loochy 06:56 AM 06-05-2019
Originally Posted by Fat Elvis:
You must have thousands of Bitcoin.
Maybe...and maybe not. Considering a single Bitcoin is worth about $7500 right now, it wouldn't take many to buy a house. Maybe he has a few Bitcoin.
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ChiefRocka 06-05-2019, 07:17 AM
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Eleazar 07:18 AM 06-05-2019
Originally Posted by loochy:
Maybe...and maybe not. Considering a single Bitcoin is worth about $7500 right now, it wouldn't take many to buy a house. Maybe he has a few Bitcoin.
Probably a cool idea until you get to your closing or go to pay off your lender and find out BTC dropped 5% that morning and you need to cough up another $30,000
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