Originally Posted by htismaqe:
With the trade down to 12 and then back up to 6, the Dolphins are more likely to take a tackle now depending on how the WR’s fall.
BTW Jeremiah’s latest mock has us trading up to 25 for Jenkins.
I saw that. And from what I can tell, because he didn’t list what we gave up, it’s #136 in the 4th.
1st - Jenkins
2nd - Meinerz
3rd - Elerson Smith, DE, NIU
4th - Simi Fehoku, WR, Stanford
My only question....is can Jenkins play LT? [Reply]
Penei Sewell
Rashawn Slater
Christian Darrisaw
Alijah Vera-Tucker-some teams think he can play tackle
Sam Cosmi
Teven Jenkins
Liam Eichenberg
2nd rd tackles
Brady Christensen
Jalen Mayfield-some teams think he can play tackle
Dillon Radunz
Walker Little
3rd rd tackles
Spencer Brown
James Hudson
Talent is going to dry up after the first 40 picks IMO. Not sure I see how we can even think of getting a tackle that’s not developmental after 31 unless we trade a lot of resources to go in the top 40 from 63 [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
How many OTs do you think are going in the first 65 picks? There are other groups out there that teams need.
That list is fairly legit, to be honest.
Look at the last 2 years:
2020
1-4. Andrew Thomas, LT, Georgia (NYG)
1-10. Jedrick Wills, LT, Alabama (CLE)
1-11. Mekhi Becton, LT, Louisville (NYJ)
1-13. Tristan Wirfs, RT, Iowa (TB)
1-18. Austin Jackson, LT, USC (MIA)
1-24. Cesar Ruiz, RG (OC), Michigan (NO)
1-29. Isaiah Wilson, RT, Georgia (TEN)
2-39. Robert Hunt, RT, Lousiana (MIA)
2-58. Ezra Cleveland, RG (OT), Boise State
3-69. Damien Lewis, LG, LSU (SEA)
3-72. Josh Jones, LT, Houson (ARZ) backup to Humphries
3-75. Jonah Jackson, RG, Ohio State (DET)
3-78. Matt Hennessy, OC, Temple (ATL)
3-83. Lloyd Cushenberry, OC, LSU (DEN)
3-96. Lucas Niang, RT, TCU (KC)
3-99. Matt Peart, RT, UConn (NYG)
3-106. Tyre Phillips, RT, Mississippi State (BAL)
RD 1 OT x 5
RD 2 OT x 2
RD 3 OT x 4
2019
1-11 Jonah Williams, LT, Alabama (CIN)
1-14 Chris Lindstrom, RG, Boston College (ATL)
1-18. Garrett Bradbury, OC, NC State (MIN)
1-22. Andre Dillard, LT, Washington State (PHI)
1-23. Tytus Howard, RT, Alabama State (HOU)
1-31. Kaleb McGary, RT, Washington (ATL)
2-35. Jawaan Taylor, RT, Florida (JAX)
2-37. Greg Little, LT, Ole Miss (CAR)
2-38. Cody Ford, RT, Oklahoma (BUF)
2-41. Dalton Risner LG (OT), Kansas State (DEN)
2-44. Elgton Jenkins, OC, Mississippi State (GB)
2-48. Erik McCoy, OC, Texas A&M (NO)
2-55. Max Scharping, LG (OT), Northern Illinois (HOU)
3-78. Michael Deiter, LG, Wisconsin (MIA) backup
3-82. Nate Davis, RG, Charlotte (TEN)
3-90. Connor McGovern, LG, Penn State (DAL) backup
3-91. Trey Pipkins, LT, Sioux Falls (LAC) backup
3-92. Chuma Edoga, LT, USC (NYJ) backup
3-97. Bobby Evans, RT, Oklahoma (LAR) backup
3-101. Yodny Cajuste, LT, West Virginia (NE) backup
RD 1 OT x 4
RD 2 OT x 5
RD 3 OT x 4
This year should be a bit of a hybrid of the two. His list has 13 OTs. 2020 had 11 and 2019 had 13 drafted in the first 3 rounds. It will be very similar again this year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
That list is fairly legit, to be honest.
Look at the last 2 years:
2020
1-4. Andrew Thomas, LT, Georgia (NYG)
1-10. Jedrick Wills, LT, Alabama (CLE)
1-11. Mekhi Becton, LT, Louisville (NYJ)
1-13. Tristan Wirfs, RT, Iowa (TB)
1-18. Austin Jackson, LT, USC (MIA)
1-24. Cesar Ruiz, RG (OC), Michigan (NO)
1-29. Isaiah Wilson, RT, Georgia (TEN)
2-39. Robert Hunt, RT, Lousiana (MIA)
2-58. Ezra Cleveland, RG (OT), Boise State
3-69. Damien Lewis, LG, LSU (SEA)
3-72. Josh Jones, LT, Houson (ARZ) backup to Humphries
3-75. Jonah Jackson, RG, Ohio State (DET)
3-78. Matt Hennessy, OC, Temple (ATL)
3-83. Lloyd Cushenberry, OC, LSU (DEN)
3-96. Lucas Niang, RT, TCU (KC)
3-99. Matt Peart, RT, UConn (NYG)
3-106. Tyre Phillips, RT, Mississippi State (BAL)
RD 1 OT x 5
RD 2 OT x 2
RD 3 OT x 4
2019
1-11 Jonah Williams, LT, Alabama (CIN)
1-14 Chris Lindstrom, RG, Boston College (ATL)
1-18. Garrett Bradbury, OC, NC State (MIN)
1-22. Andre Dillard, LT, Washington State (PHI)
1-23. Tytus Howard, RT, Alabama State (HOU)
1-31. Kaleb McGary, RT, Washington (ATL)
2-35. Jawaan Taylor, RT, Florida (JAX)
2-37. Greg Little, LT, Ole Miss (CAR)
2-38. Cody Ford, RT, Oklahoma (BUF)
2-41. Dalton Risner LG (OT), Kansas State (DEN)
2-44. Elgton Jenkins, OC, Mississippi State (GB)
2-48. Erik McCoy, OC, Texas A&M (NO)
2-55. Max Scharping, LG (OT), Northern Illinois (HOU)
3-78. Michael Deiter, LG, Wisconsin (MIA) backup
3-82. Nate Davis, RG, Charlotte (TEN)
3-90. Connor McGovern, LG, Penn State (DAL) backup
3-91. Trey Pipkins, LT, Sioux Falls (LAC) backup
3-92. Chuma Edoga, LT, USC (NYJ) backup
3-97. Bobby Evans, RT, Oklahoma (LAR) backup
3-101. Yodny Cajuste, LT, West Virginia (NE) backup
RD 1 OT x 4
RD 2 OT x 5
RD 3 OT x 4
This year should be a bit of a hybrid of the two. His list has 13 OTs. 2020 had 11 and 2019 had 13 drafted in the first 3 rounds. It will be very similar again this year.
That can’t be! Staylor said I was making this all up :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
10 or 11. I think 5 or maybe 6 go before the Chiefs at 31.
But people also need to factor that teams look at different things when it comes to LT. We aren’t looking at every LT as a starter in our offense. Just like there are LTs that aren’t going to fit in a run first offense. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
But people also need to factor that teams look at different things when it comes to LT. We aren’t looking at every LT as a starter in our offense. Just like there are LTs that aren’t going to fit in a run first offense.
Exactly. For example, Leatherwood isn’t a LT for us, but for a team like the Steelers? [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
But people also need to factor that teams look at different things when it comes to LT. We aren’t looking at every LT as a starter in our offense. Just like there are LTs that aren’t going to fit in a run first offense.
For sure. I didn’t say otherwise, just that I think 5 or so will go before 31. There’s a great chance a guy we want falls because teams value different skill sets. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
That’s why I think we might be pigeon holed into having to use our first pick on tackle. I think there will be at least 5 taken in td 1, maybe 6.
We can’t trade up from 63 to the 40’s without giving up a ton, so that seems unrealistic.
You’re looking at Walker Little and scraps after pick 50 IMO.
What is this ton that you’re talking about? A 3rd round pick this year? A 2nd round pick next year?
How is that a ton but people are down for trading a first next year to move up in the first for a LT they aren’t even sure that the Chiefs are interested in. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
What is this ton that you’re talking about? A 3rd round pick this year? A 2nd round pick next year?
I’m
How is that a ton but people are down for trading a first next year to move up in the first for a LT they aren’t even sure that the Chiefs are interested in.
Exactly. Trading up in the 2nd is too costly but trading up in the first isn’t? That makes no sense. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
That’s why I think we might be pigeon holed into having to use our first pick on tackle. I think there will be at least 5 taken in td 1, maybe 6.
We can’t trade up from 63 to the 40’s without giving up a ton, so that seems unrealistic.
You’re looking at Walker Little and scraps after pick 50 IMO.
There are some guys missing from that list. Some may not be a fit, and some may fall into day 3, some might end up at G, but there’s more T’s than are on that list.
D’Ante Smith
Alex Leatherwood
Jackson Carman
Josh Ball
Stone Forsythe
Jaylon Moore [Reply]