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petegz28 10:12 PM 10-19-2017
That is all.
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rabblerouser 12:45 PM 12-16-2018
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I could behind either of those guys. I'm kind of on the Ben Bloom boat, Cowboys LB coach, worked under Marinelli, coached D-line, was pass rush specialist, has worked as game strategist, has worked in both 3-4 and 4-3 fronts.
Yeah I like Ben Bloom, too.

Those guys are the new defensive future of the NFL; we need a bright young defensive mind, not some retread with ties to the 'old ways'.
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Chris Meck 01:10 PM 12-16-2018
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Yeah I like Ben Bloom, too.

Those guys are the new defensive future of the NFL; we need a bright young defensive mind, not some retread with ties to the 'old ways'.
This is the MOST important thing, I think.

The old guys just walk around pissed off and grumbling because the old ways don't work anymore.

Well, the rules changes make that the case. Stop bitching and figure out how to work with it. You're not going to get change from the same old thinking. I really like how the Cowboys LB'ers play. That's Ben Bloom. Plus, Hitchens looked good last year under Bloom's tutelage. As a former pass rush specialist/instructor, he moved to LB coach and it's more of a coverage scheme for them. And he's excelled there, too. I think he'd be a great guy to get the most out of what talent we have and help develop the 'backers for coverage and your Speaks, Nnadi, Kpass guys as pass rushers.
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mnchiefsguy 01:13 PM 12-16-2018
Funny how the Vikes fired their OC, and they are running rough shod over Miami today.
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Chris Meck 01:14 PM 12-16-2018
Also-on the Bloom subject-

WHAT IF the 4-3 vs. 3-4 argument could be completely null and void? What if you could line up in either or neither depending on what you wanted to do on any given play? What if they're just personnel groupings like any other, nickel or dime? Bloom has worked in both. I like that thought.
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Chris Meck 01:16 PM 12-16-2018
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Is Phillip Gaines still a starter?

Maybe he improved under a real Seconday coach? Dude has all the raw tools needed to play CB, maybe Emmitt Thomas isn't the right guy to coach the secondary anymore?
He'd probably be great if you could still play bump and run, tight man and mug guys at the line like you could when he played.

I don't think any of the defensive coaches have done a good job of adjusting to the modern game.
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ILChief 02:52 PM 12-16-2018
Kris Richard isn't available. Unless they can garrett and new coacj cleans house. He is essentially the DC there. Dallas isn't letting him leave
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mcaj22 03:44 PM 12-16-2018
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Is Phillip Gaines still a starter?

Maybe he improved under a real Seconday coach? Dude has all the raw tools needed to play CB, maybe Emmitt Thomas isn't the right guy to coach the secondary anymore?
Bills cut Gaines in early November. I think he was the most penalized corner in the league at the time.

Gaines was then claimed by........drum roll......

Dorsey and the Browns. Time is a flat turd circle.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 04:12 PM 12-16-2018
Originally Posted by TEX:
See, THAT'S the deal right there.
And it wouldn't cost that much to maintain a defense at that level either. Andy's never had it so good in that regard, so he needs to let go of the last vestiges of losing ways and become a complete winner if the Chiefs are ever going to do anything of note.
And that means stepping the accountability level up several notches and letting go of things that don't work.
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petegz28 09:45 PM 12-16-2018
Watching Philly kick the crap out of the Rams in LA just reinforces what a piece of shit the Bob Sutton style defense is.
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Jimmya 09:47 PM 12-16-2018
Agreed.... Sutton sucks
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pugsnotdrugs19 09:49 PM 12-16-2018
I like the Bowles idea a lot and think it makes the most sense given his history with Andy.
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Pasta Little Brioni 09:50 PM 12-16-2018
Werthers is pathetic
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ILChief 09:54 PM 12-16-2018
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Watching Philly kick the crap out of the Rams in LA just reinforces what a piece of shit the Bob Sutton style defense is.
Does Reid watch other games? Can he not see our defense is garbage compared to other teams?
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ILChief 09:58 PM 12-16-2018
The domain firebobsutton.com is taken. Did one of you buy it or did the chiefs squat on it to keep it from becoming a thing?
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CoMoChief 10:01 PM 12-16-2018
Sutton sucks, but so do our CB's, ILB's and S.
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