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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Another anti-vaxxer dies of COVID
Lex Luthor 06:32 PM 07-20-2021
Give this lady a Darwin award (posthumously, of course).

Originally Posted by :
Unvaccinated Trump supporter who spread coronavirus conspiracy theories dies of COVID-19



On Tuesday, the Cape Cod Times reported that Linda Zuern, a former member of the Bourne, Massachusetts Board of Selectmen and a Trump-supporting figure in the local Republican Party, had died of COVID-19.

Zuern died at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston of severe complications caused by COVID-19, according to the report. She was 70 years old and had not been vaccinated.

"She was a strong woman who believed in speaking the truth and defending our freedoms in America," Republican State Committeewoman Deborah Dugan told the Cape Cod Times. Dugan was at Zuern's bedside when she died. "I would describe her to people as a little woman but a mighty warrior."

For months, Zuern, a member of the pro-Trump group the United Cape Patriots, had promoted conspiracy theories about the pandemic on Facebook. She has shared articles accusing the World Health Organization of a coverup of the "Wuhan Virus" and claiming COVID-19 is cover for "globalists" to usher in "U.N. Agenda 2030" — a sustainable development initiative right-wing conspiracy theorists assert is a plot to create a one world government.

Zuern also expressed support for the QAnon conspiracy theory, posting their creed of "WWG1WGA" (Where We Go One, We Go All).

Zuern promoted the use of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment of COVID-19 during a Barnstable County Assembly of Delegates meeting in December and questioned whether officials "had looked into preventative measures that people could use besides a vaccine to help build up their immune system," the Cape Cod Times reported.

Peter Meier, chair of the Board of Selectmen, said Zuern cared deeply about others. "She definitely left her mark on the community," he added.

According to the report, Zuern and her mother contracted COVID-19 while returning home from a trip to South Dakota — a state where Republican-motivated policies have let the virus propagate with little control.
https://www.rawstory.com/unvaccinated-trump-supporter/
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BleedingRed 08:40 AM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
This is incorrect
Not really, not a single healthy child under 12 has died of covid.
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MahomesMagic 08:46 AM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Not really, not a single healthy child under 12 has died of covid.
But here's a 13 year old dead after taking Pfizer.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are now investigating the death of a 13-year-old Michigan boy, Jacob Clynick, who died a few days after receiving his second dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.


https://www.newsweek.com/13-year-old...gating-1606529
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lawrenceRaider 08:46 AM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor:
Starting a thread on Chiefsplanet isn’t politicizing the pandemic.

Politicizing the pandemic is the President calling it a Democrat hoax. Trump did that.

Politicizing the pandemic is the President claiming that the only reason people wear masks during the pandemic is to make a political statement about him. Trump said that.

Politicizing the pandemic is the President telling the public that COVID is nothing to be concerned about, while privately telling people that COVID is a very serious concern. Trump did that.

Politicizing the pandemic is the President getting vaccinated secretly last January instead of doing it on national TV and urging everyone to follow his example and get vaccinated. Trump did that.
You might have the worst TDS here.

Your first point is a total lie. Not surprising you believed it.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/de...-hoax-comment/

I'm not going to argue that Trump didn't totally flub his public handling of the pandemic with his wildly inconsistent, and often just plain wrong, public comments because he was horrifically bad on that front. It is the reason he didn't get reelected.

Actual results though, things that actually happened, Trump didn't do nearly as bad. We have vax due in part to Trump pushing for it.

Trump made public announcements telling people to get vaxxed. Didn't make a difference to any of the deniers though.

At some point you are going to realize that you are just like the Obama is a Kenyan Muslim types. Hopefully.
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tatorhog 09:38 AM 07-21-2021
Did Avenatti get the vax? Asking for a friend.
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Just Passin' By 12:21 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
But here's a 13 year old dead after taking Pfizer.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are now investigating the death of a 13-year-old Michigan boy, Jacob Clynick, who died a few days after receiving his second dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.


https://www.newsweek.com/13-year-old...gating-1606529


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A team of Johns Hopkins researchers recently reported that when studying a group of about 48,000 children, they found zero COVID deaths among healthy kids, but the Centers for Disease Control doesn’t care.

Dr. Marty Makary is a medical expert and professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Bloomberg School of Public Health, and Carey Business School. His research team “worked with the nonprofit FAIR Health to analyze approximately 48,000 children under 18 diagnosed with Covid in health-insurance data from April to August 2020.”

After studying comprehensive data on thousands of children, the team “found a mortality rate of zero among children without a pre-existing medical condition such as leukemia.” Rather than acknowledge this scientific reality, Makary says the CDC continues to use “flimsy evidence” to push the COVID vaccine upon children...
Johns Hopkins Team: There Are Still Zero COVID Deaths Among Healthy Kids
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Lex Luthor 02:00 PM 07-21-2021
Getting back to the actual thread topic:

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'I'm sorry, but it's too late' - unvaccinated patients beg for shot

An Alabama physician glumly says she is making "a lot of progress" in encouraging people to vaccinate – as she struggles to keep them alive.

Dr. Brytney Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, wrote in a recent Facebook post she is treating a lot of young, otherwise healthy people for serious coronavirus infections.

"One of the last things they do before they're intubated is beg me for the vaccine," she wrote. "I hold their hand and tell them that I'm sorry, but it's too late."

In her post, Cobia wrote that when a patient dies, she hugs their family members and urges them to get vaccinated. She said they cry and tell her they thought the pandemic was a "hoax," or "political," or targeting some other age group or skin color.

"They wish they could go back. But they can't," Cobia wrote. "So they thank me and they go get the vaccine. And I go back to my office, write their death note, and say a small prayer that this loss will save more lives."

Cobia was pregnant when she battled COVID-19 last summer, and she had a low-grade fever, sore throat, fatigue, congestion and sneezing. She spent a weekend with other family members – and eight of them ultimately tested positive for the virus, including her husband. Most suffered more severe symptoms than she did, she said.

"The fear that I feel for myself and my unborn baby is bad enough, but the guilt that I feel for exposing people that trusted me is what I want to focus on," she wrote in a Facebook post at the time. "Don't be me. Don't wear a mask everywhere else in the world EXCEPT around your core."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/8035920002/
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IowaHawkeyeChief 02:03 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
Johns Hopkins Team: There Are Still Zero COVID Deaths Among Healthy Kids
Yes, vaccinating any healthy adult 23 and under is not wise, under 18 is stupid, less than 12 idiotic. All Covid deaths under 18 had a significant health issue, many with leukemia. Also the long term risk to fertility is not known, it may have no issues, but if you are a healthy younger female there is more or less 0% mortality risk, why chance it until it is fully vetted.
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Katipan 02:05 PM 07-21-2021
There is a wide swath of the population that doesn't know they are at risk and will defy the vaccine.

It's not like poor Americans go for routine physicals.
Of any race.
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tatorhog 02:10 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
Yes, vaccinating any healthy adult 23 and under is not wise, under 18 is stupid, less than 12 idiotic. All Covid deaths under 18 had a significant health issue, many with leukemia. Also the long term risk to fertility is not known, it may have no issues, but if you are a healthy younger female there is more or less 0% mortality risk, why chance it until it is fully vetted.
Why is it being pushed so hard, yet still in experimental phase?

Liability. You have zero recourse for taking an experimental drug should something go sideways down the road. There may never be a single side effect from the drug. But if there is, you waive every right you have for compensation by taking something thats still experimental.
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MahomesMagic 02:14 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor:
Getting back to the actual thread topic:



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/8035920002/
Looks like fake news.

Since when do Facebook posts become news stories?!
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Pogue 02:15 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor:
Starting a thread on Chiefsplanet isn’t politicizing the pandemic.

Politicizing the pandemic is the President calling it a Democrat hoax. Trump did that.

Politicizing the pandemic is the President claiming that the only reason people wear masks during the pandemic is to make a political statement about him. Trump said that.

Politicizing the pandemic is the President telling the public that COVID is nothing to be concerned about, while privately telling people that COVID is a very serious concern. Trump did that.

Politicizing the pandemic is the President getting vaccinated secretly last January instead of doing it on national TV and urging everyone to follow his example and get vaccinated. Trump did that.

^ voted for Kamala who said she wouldn’t get the vaccine. :-)
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KCChiefsFan88 02:19 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor:
Getting back to the actual thread topic:



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/8035920002/
If only blacks in Alabama (27% of the state's population) weren't following the lead of prominent anti-vaxxer Louis Farrakhan.

Only 27% of blacks in Alabama have even received one dose of the vaccine.

But you chose instead to start this "non-political" thread off using a Trump supporter as a supposed example of the consequences of following anti-vaxx information.
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Over Yonder 03:52 PM 07-21-2021
Lex, I know deep in your heart, you always strive to be fair and never let politics sway your observations on issues. Can you give us the title of the thread you intend on starting about the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of folks just like me that have had this horrendous plague yet miraculously survived even without this vaccine?

I want to be sure I don't miss it. I want to compare the articles and testimonials and be able to reach an unbiased decision on this issue. :-)
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Lex Luthor 09:19 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Over Yonder:
Lex, I know deep in your heart, you always strive to be fair and never let politics sway your observations on issues. Can you give us the title of the thread you intend on starting about the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of folks just like me that have had this horrendous plague yet miraculously survived even without this vaccine?

I want to be sure I don't miss it. I want to compare the articles and testimonials and be able to reach an unbiased decision on this issue. :-)
I'm glad you didn't die from COVID. And I'm glad that most of the people who get COVID don't die from it.

But the fact is that over 630,000 Americans have died from COVID. That's a huge number. More Americans have been killed by COVID than have been killed in all American wars. Combined.

We can't do anything for the people who have already been killed by COVID. But now, 99.5% of future COVID deaths could be eliminated if people would simply get vaccinated.

It's absolutely mind-boggling that people refuse to get the vaccine.

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Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people.

Preliminary data shows 99.5% of COVID-related deaths in Texas were among unvaccinated people, according to the Department of State Health Services.

Of the 8,787 people who have died in Texas due to COVID-19 since early February, at least 43 were fully vaccinated, the Texas Department of State Health Services said.

That means 99.5% of people who died due to COVID-19 in Texas from Feb. 8 to July 14 were unvaccinated, while 0.5% were the result of “breakthrough infections,” which DSHS defines as people who contracted the virus two weeks after being fully vaccinated.

The agency did not release details about the 43 deaths and noted that these are preliminary numbers, which could change because each case must be confirmed through public health investigations. Statewide, more than 50,000 people have died of COVID-19 since March 2020, but the rate of deaths has slowed dramatically since vaccines became widely available in April.

Dr. David Lakey, the chief medical officer of the University of Texas System, said people succumbing to the coronavirus despite being vaccinated was “not unexpected.”

“No vaccine is 100%,” said Lakey, who is also a member of the Texas Medical Association’s COVID-19 task force. “And we’ve known for a long while that the vaccines aren’t 100%, but they’re really really good at preventing severe disease and hospitalizations. … There will always be some individuals that will succumb to the illness in the absence of full herd immunity.”

He added that 0.5% is “a very low number of individuals in a state of 30 million. … In the grand perspective of everything, that’s not a large number that would call into question at all the use of this vaccine.”
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07...inated-deaths/
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Lex Luthor 09:25 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Pogue:
^ voted for Kamala who said she wouldn’t get the vaccine. :-)
Stop embarrassing yourself. That's not what she said.

What she actually said is shown below.

Originally Posted by :
Sen. Kamala Harris of California said during Wednesday night’s vice presidential debate with Vice President Mike Pence that she does not trust the administration’s push to rush a coronavirus vaccine into production.

If the public health professionals, if Dr. [Anthony] Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely,” Harris said during the live debate in Salt Lake City, when she was asked if Americans should take a vaccine, if the Trump administration were to approve one either before or after the election. “But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it. I’m not taking it.
https://www.yahoo.com/now/kamala-har...020511962.html
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