Originally Posted by staylor26:
I see you're a fan of Van Ness too. What do you think about Van Ness at 30/31?
I'm all about it, yeah. He's a little longer than Karlaftis and a little bit better closing burst but otherwise very similar players. Not too bendy or twitchy. I like him though. I think the top-10 talk is overrating him but I think he goes in the first and the only question really is where. I'd say 20-31 is probably a solid range to have him in. [Reply]
DT Carter fell outside the top 10 so I swooped the #12 pick for our 1st this year and next, 2nd and 7th this year, and 3rd next year. I traded down 1 spot at #167 and picked up an extra 6th next year. Basically, gave up 4 premium picks for the top player in the draft, but can probably get 1 or 2 of those back if EB gets and HC job or I trade OT OBJ next year.
#12 DT Carter
#95 OT Breeland
#133 WR Mingo
#167 S Brown
#197 HB Luepke
#220 DL Diaby
#227 LB Hayward
#250 OT Bass
#257 CB Thomas V
Ran it a 2nd time, and I like this one even better...
#15 DT Carter
#94 DE Harrison
#122 WR Mingo
#133 S Brown
#167 WR Iosivas
#197 OT Nelson
#218 DE Incoom
#220 DL Diaby
#227 DE Fehoko
#257 CB Thomas V
^That'd make for really deep DL with only C Jones making big money assuming you let F Clark go, nice talents added to the WR and DB rooms, and another swing at a mid-round RT to complete the OL. [Reply]
Yikes...Traded our 1st, 3rd, and next year's 2nd to draft DE Will Anderson at #20! Watch out!
#20 DE Anderson
#62 WR Rice
#94 OT Morris
#133 WR Scott
#167 DL Pickens
#197 OT Haggard
#217 HB Luepke
#219 DL Diaby
#227 DE Incoom
#250 WR BoBo
#258 CB Wright
I doubt Will Anderson or Jalen Carter actually fall in this draft, unless they get hurt at the combine or arrested between now and then, but Q Johnston might be a more realistic target if we were to interested in trading up. [Reply]
Here's the "top ten" selections the following four mock simulators gave me at 31 (my choice in bold):
PFF:
QB Tanner McKee, Stanford
TE Luke Musgrave, Oregon State
TE Dalton Kincaid, Utah
DT Calijah Kancey, Pittsburgh
DT Siaki Ika, Baylor DE BJ Ojulari, LSU
DE Will McDonald IV, Iowa State
DE Andre Carter II, Army
LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas
S Jammie Robinson, Florida State
NFL Mock Draft Database:
RB Bijan Robinson, Texas
RB Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama
TE Darnell Washington, Georgia
TE Dalton Kincaid, Utah
OT Dawand Jones, Ohio State
DE Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame DE BJ Ojulari, LSU
LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas
CB Emmanuel Forbes, Mississippi State
S Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M
Fanspeak:
RB Devon Achane, Texas A&M
TE Luke Musgrave, Oregon State
OG O'Cyrus Torrence, Florida
DE Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame DE Andre Carter II, Arny
LB Noah Sewell, Oregon
CB Christian Gonzalez, Oregon
S Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M
S Jordan Battle, Alabama
S Christopher Smith II, Georgia
PFN:
WR Kayshon Boutte, LSU
WR Josh Downs, North Carolina
TE Darnell Washington, Georgia OT Anton Harrison, Oklahoma
DT Siaki Ika, Baylor
DE Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State
LB Noah Sewell, Oregon
LB Henry To'oTo'o, Alabama
LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas, Arkansas
S JL Skinner, Boise State [Reply]
Here's the "top ten" selections the following four mock simulators gave me at 63 (my choice in bold):
PFF:
WR Jalin Hyatt, Tennessee
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa
OT Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse
DT Moro Ojomo, Texas
DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin
DT Jer'Zhan Newton, Illinois
DE Derick Hall, Auburn
DE Zach Harrison, Ohio State
LB Daiyan Henley, Washington State
CB Deonte Banks, Maryland
NFL Mock Draft Database:
WR Rashee Rice, SMU OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee
OT Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse
OT Jaelyn Duncan, Maryland
DE Will McDonald IV, Iowa State
DE Andre Carter II, Army
DE Zach Harrison, Ohio State
LB Henry To'oto'o, Alabama
LB Jack Campbell, Iowa
S Christopher Smith II, Georgia
Fanspeak:
RB Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama WR Rashee Rice, SMU
OG Andrew Vorhees, USC
C John Michael Schmitz, Minnesota
LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas
LB Henry To'oto'o, Alabama
CB Tyrique Stevenson, Miami
CB Mekhi Garner, LSU
S Christopher Smith II, Georgia
S JL Skinner, Boise State
PFN:
QB Hendon Hooker, Tennessee
WR Marvin Mims, Oklahoma
TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State
OT Jaylyn Duncan, Maryland
OT Cody Mauch, North Dakota State
DE Luke Van Ness, Iowa DE Andre Carter II, Army
LB Owen Pappoe, Auburn
CB Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson, TCU
S Brandon Joseph, Notre Dame [Reply]
Here's the "top ten" selections the following four mock simulators gave me at 93 (my choice in bold):
PFF:
RB Devon Achane, Texas A&M
WR A.T. Perry, Wake Forest
OG Andrew Vorhees, USC
C Luke Wypler, Ohio State
DT Kobie Turner, Wake Forest
DE Nick Herbig, Wisconsin
CB Jaylon Jones, Texas A&M
CB Clark Phillips III, Utah S Christopher Smith II, Georgia
S Brandon Joseph, Notre Dame
NFL Mock Draft Database:
RB Zach Evans, Mississippi WR Rashee Rice, SMU
WR Cedric Tillman, Tennessee
DE Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern
CB Kyu Blu Kelly, Stanford
S Christopher Smith II, Georgia
S Jordan Battle, Alabama
S Sydney Brown, Illinois
S Jammie Robinson, Florida State
S JL Skinner, Boise State
Fanspeak:
RB Chase Brown, Illinois
RB DeWayne McBride, UAB
WR A.T. Perry, Wake Forest
C Luke Wypler, Ohio State
C Steve Avila, TCU
C Olusegun Oluwatimi, Michigan
S Jammie Robinson, Florida State S Brandon Joseph, Notre Dame
S Trey Dean III, Florida
S Sydney Brown, Illinois
PFN:
RB Zach Evans, Mississippi
TE Luke Musgrave, Oregon State
C Luke Wypler, Ohio State
DT Mazi Smith, Michigan DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin
DT Jacquelin Roy, LSU
DE DJ Johnson, Oregon
DE Zach Harrison, Ohio State
LB Ivan Pace Jr., Cincinnati
LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas [Reply]
RB DeWayne McBride, UAB
RB Chase Brown, Illinois
WR Andrei Iosivas, Princeton WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati
WR Marvin Mims, Oklahoma
WR Jonathan Mingo, Mississippi
OG Atonio Mafi, UCLA
C Sedrick Van Pran, Georgia
C Olusegun Oluwatimi, Michigan
DE Colby Wooden, Auburn
NFL Mock Draft Database:
QB Jaren Hall, BYU
RB Deuce Vaughn, Kansas State
RB Tyjae Spears, Tulane
WR Marvin Mims, Oklahoma
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa
OT Tyler Steen, Alabama
OG Jarrett Patterson, Notre Dame DT Colby Wooden, Auburn
LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas
CB Mekhi Garner, LSU
Fanspeak:
RB DeWayne McBride, UAB
RB Israel Abanikanda, Pittsburgh
RB Tyjae Spears, Tulane
OG Kendall Randolph, Alabama
CB Mekhi Blackmon, USC
CB Jaylon Jones, Texas A&M
CB Kei'Trel Clark, Louisville
S Ronnie Hickman, Ohio State
S Rashad Torrence II, Florida
S John Torchio, Wisconsin
PFN:
RB Kenny McIntosh, Georgia RB Eric Gray, Oklahoma
RB Chase Brown, Illinois
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa
OT Jordan McFadden, Clemson
C Olusegun Oluwatimi, Michigan
C Alex Forsyth, Oregon
DT Zacch Pickens, South Carolina
DE Isaiah McGuire, Missouri
S Rashad Torrence II, Florida [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Stop drafting a damn RB and try again.
Our current roster is #1 in the league, we can go BPA and take any impact player we want. So my question would be why not a RB? I'd actually argue bc of our situation on current roster we might be most eligible to take a RB in the first like Robinson if he falls. He'd make for a really fun pick in my opinion, now. [Reply]
Messed around with various trades on PFF and got the below. I'm increasingly interested in Boutte as a WR option. As someone else said, there is a slight "this year's Pickens" vibe to the situation, though different players and different "issues". PFF let me trade up only a little way to get him, but I suspect we'd need to go up closer to 45-50. Probably the pick I'm most "meh" about is the Mauch one. Other than that the knock would be perhaps we need another DE, but in this scenario I'm assuming FA has covered DT and DE.
I probably should have swung for another RB but there you go.
31. Will McDonald IV - DE
58. Kayson Boutte - WR
95. Cody Mauch - OT
107. Gervon Dexter Sr - DI
111. Brandon Joseph - S
114. Brodric Martin - DI
122. Trey Palmer - WR
219 - Cameron Latu - TE
227 - Drake Thomas - LB [Reply]