Originally Posted by Reerun_KC:
Is this all you got? Or can you bring something of substance to this conversation?
When you speak of "grunge" as being of lesser musicianship and thereby insult great musicians like Kim Thayil, Jerry Cantrell, Mike McCready, etc., acting like they're inferior to your gods of hairspray, you're not adding anything of substance. You sound like a moron. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Brock:
When you speak of "grunge" as being of lesser musicianship and thereby insult great musicians like Kim Thayil, Jerry Cantrell, Mike McCready, etc., acting like they're inferior to your gods of hairspray, you're not adding anything of substance. You sound like a moron.
Dude there is plenty of hair metal that blows ass and lacks serious muscians...
Jerry Cantrell is freaking amazing. They were here in the OK casinos not to long ago. Great freaking show.
Then again, you dont know what I like or dont like. You are just throwing shit out there acting like some jilted high school girl.
Well, when you make blatantly retarded comments like "Musicianship died when grunge took the scene", one can make some pretty accurate assumptions about your knowledge and taste. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Brock:
When you speak of "grunge" as being of lesser musicianship and thereby insult great musicians like Kim Thayil, Jerry Cantrell, Mike McCready, etc., acting like they're inferior to your gods of hairspray, you're not adding anything of substance. You sound like a moron.
Originally Posted by Brock:
Well, when you make blatantly retarded comments like "Musicianship died when grunge took the scene", one can make some pretty accurate assumptions about your knowledge and taste.
I also said this statement as well "Dude there is plenty of hair metal that blows ass and lacks serious muscians"
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I think the single most-interesting factoid about Lynch is that he once auditioned for Ozzy and in the process, it was discovered he couldn't read or write music. Lynch said he visualizes the fretboard in shapes (I believe Stevie Ray Vaughan once said he did the same thing).
In a decade where Lynch's contemporaries were all into advanced theory and studying at music institutes, he couldn't even read notes on a staff...
Which made it pretty hilarious on that instructional video he did. :-):-)
I once saw Lynch do a clinic here in Topeka about 10 years ago. The guy could hardly remember any solos from his Dokken days. And you could tell he was just wingin' it a lot. But he is good a noodling.
Lynch was the main reason why I got into Dokken back in the 80s. He was my main guitar idol for a long time. I had all the Dokken records and the first 3 Lynch Mob ones as well (yes, even the one with rap). [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I didn't say it was uncommon. It certainly wasn't common amongst Lynch's "guitar hero" contemporaries at the time, though.
Sure it was and still is to this day. Furthermore, Lynch could read, not that it matters, anyway. Ozzy didn't care for style and Lynch didn't want to be in Ozzy for the main reason that Brad Gillis and John Sykes didn't want the gig: Money.
In Ozzy (and this includes everyone from Randy to Gus), you're a paid sideman. That's it. Flat fee, whether it's studio time or touring. Musicians in Ozzy's band don't share in the record royalties. In each and every song, Ozzy is listed as co-writer although he doesn't write lyrics, melodies or music. If you wrote the music, you're not going to receive 50% but 10%.
Lynch and Gillis decided to take their chances with their respective bands (Night Ranger & Dokken) and Sykes went on to write and record the Whitesnake 1987 album, although he was fired before the band toured or shot video.
Rock musicians aren't expected to show up with a guitar and a chart for auditions. Never have, never will.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
And I also never said it was WHY he didn't get the Ozzy gig. Only that it became public knowledge after he auditioned for Ozzy.
Public knowledge? More like Urban Myth. Lynch was a guitar teacher and took over Randy Rhoads students after Randy's death. Lynch also studied classical guitar in Arizona in the 80's and IMO, made his playing worse.
And once again, unless you're showing up on a soundstage for a session, it doesn't matter if can sight read or not, especially in rock. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Lzen:
Which made it pretty hilarious on that instructional video he did. :-):-)
I once saw Lynch do a clinic here in Topeka about 10 years ago. The guy could hardly remember any solos from his Dokken days. And you could tell he was just wingin' it a lot. But he is good a noodling.
Lynch was the main reason why I got into Dokken back in the 80s. He was my main guitar idol for a long time. I had all the Dokken records and the first 3 Lynch Mob ones as well (yes, even the one with rap).
I still have "Back for the Attack" and "Tooth and Nail" sitting here on my desk. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC:
Dude can seriously play the guitar...
Yeah, he can play the guitar. And that's it.
He's not a composer, he's not an engineer, he's not a producer and, well, I won't get it into.
Suffice to say, Reb's fortunate he can play guitar because that's all he can do. Doug Aldrich, on the other hand, can do it all and does, very successfully. [Reply]
