Originally Posted by d12115415:
You guys are so cute thinking the Patriots are actually going to lose by more than a TD. Do you all think Tom and Bill are going to wake up different people or something the day of? Do you see who they've had this year? Pretty much been just the 2 of them, toss in White, Hightower and sometimes Edelman. Yet, here they are off to their 8th straight AFC title game. :-):-):-):-):-)
PLEASE keep underestimating him. Maybe Mahomes will buy into it too.
Going back as far as 2014:
9/29/14
New England@KC: Pats 14, Chiefs 41
1/16/16
New England@KC: Pats 27, Chiefs 20
9/7/17
KC@New England: Chiefs 42, Pats 27
10/14/18
KC@New England: Chiefs 40, Pats 43
What stands out here? How about the Chiefs have scored at least 40 points in all but one of the four match-ups that Andy Reid has been HC for the Chiefs. In other words, Bill Belichick hans't been able to stop Andy Reid's offense from scoring 40 or more points but one time.
And here's something else to think about: the Chiefs scored 40+ points on the defensive genius Bill Belichick 3 times with Alex Smith as the signal-caller, not the phenom Patrick Mahomes. That's right, 205 yds/game, average less than a TD/game, game manager, can't-consistently-throw-a-ball more than 15 yds, Alex Smith, who somehow averaged 275/game and 2 TDs against Belichick's vaunted D, three times. That Alex Smith.
Something else to consider: while the Chiefs were terrible on defense for the year, at home they were significantly better, as in allowing only 17.4 points a game at home, produced 11 more sacks at home, almost twice as many tackles for a loss at home, more than twice as many passes defensed at home (43 vs 21), and 4 times as many INTs at home (12 vs 3).
In other words, the Chiefs D that the Pats faced in Foxborough three months ago is not the D they will be facing on Sunday. Never mind the fact that Eric Berry is 100% ready to go (didn't play in Foxborough), as is Daniel Sorenson (also DNP in Foxborough), and C. Ward didn't even play in that game and is now a starter.
And let's not forget that Mahomes came back from a 15 point deficit in the first half to take the lead from the Pats in the second half in FOXBOROUGH, and it was the defense that let him and the Chiefs down, not Mahomes.
Now, with all due respect to the Patriots and Tom Brady, who is the best QB in the NFL and probably the best QB in the history of the NFL, but it's the Patriots D that has been the issue between these two teams, and in the last six years, they have been found lacking on a consistent basis, to the tune of just under 100 points allowed in four meetings.
So, it's not a stretch by any means that the Chiefs should win this game by double digits; in fact, history tells is that it should be a Chiefs victory by double digits with Mahomes at the helm.
Originally Posted by d12115415:
You guys are so cute thinking the Patriots are actually going to lose by more than a TD. Do you all think Tom and Bill are going to wake up different people or something the day of? Do you see who they've had this year? Pretty much been just the 2 of them, toss in White, Hightower and sometimes Edelman. Yet, here they are off to their 8th straight AFC title game. :-):-):-):-):-)
PLEASE keep underestimating him. Maybe Mahomes will buy into it too.
I did see who they had...
Jags, Lions, Titans, Dolphins, and Steelers. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Going back as far as 2014:
9/29/14
New England@KC: Pats 14, Chiefs 41
1/16/16
New England@KC: Pats 27, Chiefs 20
9/7/17
KC@New England: Chiefs 42, Pats 27
10/14/18
KC@New England: Chiefs 40, Pats 43
What stands out here? How about the Chiefs have scored at least 40 points in all but one of the four match-ups that Andy Reid has been HC for the Chiefs. In other words, Bill Belichick hans't been able to stop Andy Reid's offense from scoring 40 or more points but one time.
And here's something else to think about: the Chiefs scored 40+ points on the defensive genius Bill Belichick 3 times with Alex Smith as the signal-caller, not the phenom Patrick Mahomes. That's right, 205 yds/game, average less than a TD/game, game manager, can't-consistently-throw-a-ball more than 15 yds, Alex Smith, who somehow averaged 275/game and 2 TDs against Belichick's vaunted D, three times. That Alex Smith.
Something else to consider: while the Chiefs were terrible on defense for the year, at home they were significantly better, as in allowing only 17.4 points a game at home, produced 11 more sacks at home, almost twice as many tackles for a loss at home, more than twice as many passes defensed at home (43 vs 21), and 4 times as many INTs at home (12 vs 3).
In other words, the Chiefs D that the Pats faced in Foxborough three months ago is not the D they will be facing on Sunday. Never mind the fact that Eric Berry is 100% ready to go (didn't play in Foxborough), as is Daniel Sorenson (also DNP in Foxborough), and C. Ward didn't even play in that game and is now a starter.
And let's not forget that Mahomes came back from a 15 point deficit in the first half to take the lead from the Pats in the second half in FOXBOROUGH, and it was the defense that let him and the Chiefs down, not Mahomes.
Now, with all due respect to the Patriots and Tom Brady, who is the best QB in the NFL and probably the best QB in the history of the NFL, but it's the Patriots D that has been the issue between these two teams, and in the last six years, they have been found lacking on a consistent basis, to the tune of just under 100 points allowed in four meetings.
So, it's not a stretch by any means that the Chiefs should win this game by double digits; in fact, history tells is that it should be a Chiefs victory by double digits with Mahomes at the helm.
And the Pats dynasty will collapse once and for all.
We will be heroes to everyone in the league, since no one outside of Boston is really a Pats fan. Everyone is tired of the Pats, and this will reignite interest to an otherwise boring and stale league (before Mahomes, Mayfield, Goff etc). And remap the landscape of the AFC for the next generation once Toms old creepy ecentric ass is done for . Pats fans can revert back to Pre Brady and stop caring about “their”team , and not even really know who the players are
We won’t be able to hit Brady, because like Manning, he’s too much of a bitch to ever think about ever having any contact whatsoever. So just get pressure and he’ll throw it to avoid a hit, or my personal favorite throw it directly into the dirt. [Reply]
I honestly think it’s going to not be much of a game. I think it’ll be one of those games where the chiefs are in control for nearly all of the game. Don’t think it’ll be a blowout, but I think the outcome will not be in doubt, despite what the final score may indicate [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dayze:
I honestly think it’s going to not be much of a game. I think it’ll be one of those games where the chiefs are in control for nearly all of the game. Don’t think it’ll be a blowout, but I think the outcome will not be in doubt, despite what the final score may indicate
I'm going the other way. Chiefs get momentum early and keep the pedal to the floor while Chris Jones, Justin Houston, and Dee Ford feast like starved lions in Rome. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
Not a single player on the field for the Chiefs will be 40 years of age, so how do they have 40 years of frustration to let out?
How many ever saw Kansas City before, say, 3 years ago? Like 10 or so I'd bet.
It's odd how fans of teams (not just Chiefs -- all teams, most fans) somehow think their players feel the same way about their team that they do. 99% of the time, that isn't the case at all.
The amount of bitching I hear from Pats fans about players who leave for the money when they have it SO GOOD with the Pats/Brady/Belichick is comical. They're playing for a fucking paycheck -- and would YOU seriously turn down an extra $X million? Why? You're from fucking Alabama or Florida or Texas or California and you don't give a crap about Boston. JFC people.
Same for you, here. Just sayin'
That's all well and good if the players aren't keenly aware of it. Listening to interviews over the last few days, the Chiefs players, TO A MAN, have all mentioned the history of the team and the frustration of it. They may not have experienced personally but they're now invested in it. Sorry. [Reply]
